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Another RAV question

Hi all, I'm an IT contractor based in Basel and I'm finishing a work contract at the end of this month that I've been in continuously for the past 2.5 years. I'm planning to go to the RAV this week or next week and I've been reading up on all the requirements and think I know most of what they look for. I have a couple of questions though so if someone knows I'd be grateful for any answers:

- When I go to the RAV for the first time do I need an appointment or can I just rock up?
- For the first appointment do I need to have all the required paperwork with me, or do I go and register and then go back a second with all the paperwork they look for?
- One of the documents they need is a "Arbeitgeberbescheinigung" which is a confirmation of employment. My employer/agency isn't required to fill this until the last day of my contact - March 31st. Is there any point in going to the RAV before March 31st if I don't have this "Arbeitgeberbescheinigung"?
- I have very little German - is this a problem or will I need an interpreter?

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Hi all, I'm an IT contractor based in Basel and I'm finishing a work contract at the end of this month that I've been in continuously for the past 2.5 years. I'm planning to go to the RAV this week or next week and I've been reading up on all the requirements and think I know most of what they look for. I have a couple of questions though so if someone knows I'd be grateful for any answers:

- When I go to the RAV for the first time do I need an appointment or can I just rock up?
- For the first appointment do I need to have all the required paperwork with me, or do I go and register and then go back a second with all the paperwork they look for?
- One of the documents they need is a "Arbeitgeberbescheinigung" which is a confirmation of employment. My employer/agency isn't required to fill this until the last day of my contact - March 31st. Is there any point in going to the RAV before March 31st if I don't have this "Arbeitgeberbescheinigung"?
- I have very little German - is this a problem or will I need an interpreter?

TIA
Just turn up, bring as much paperwork that you have , AHV card , resident permit, contract of employment etc. As you had a fixed contract you need to start looking & applying for 10 jobs a month, 3 months before your contract finished.

Once registered you will be given an appointment with a councillor & probably will be asked to bring an interpreter.
If you can't show you have been applying for jobs for 3 months, you will get a punishment in additional to your upto 1 month waiting period.
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Re: Another RAV question

Ok thanks, I should probably also mention that I'm an EU national with a B permit that lasts until Oct 2016. I started applying for jobs last week when it became clear my contract won't be renewed. Couple more questions:

- There are 2 RAV offices in Basel Stadt - is one of them better than the other or does it matter which one I go to?

- I need a "Wohnsitzbescheinigung" [certificate of residence] from the Gemeinde in Basel Stadt - does anyone know where this is located? I think I was there a couple of years ago - I've searched for it but there's so many agencies and departments I can't seem to find the right one.

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Re: Another RAV question

You go to the Gemeinde office in Basel, where you first registered to live here and you received the B permit.
They will give you the "Wohnsitzbescheinigung" -- take your ID with you.

You cannot choose the RAV office, the RAV decide. Go and register at the RAV fairly soon, you won't get a
cent until you have given them ALL the information they ask for.

You can present the "Arbeitgeberbescheinigung" to your employer now.
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You cannot choose the RAV office, the RAV decide.
Ok thanks, according to the link below there's actually 3 offices. For the initial appointment I physically have to walk into one so which one do I pick, or should I ring them first?

http://www.awa.bs.ch/home-en/aboutus...-and-sites.htm

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You can present the "Arbeitgeberbescheinigung" to your employer now.
What do you mean by "present" it? Isn't it something they send to me? I emailed them earlier and they said they'll do it but they have to wait for the last payroll which will probably be the 2nd week of April.

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Re: Another RAV question

The paperwork from employer plus 12 months salary slips needs to be given ASAP once the unemployment period starts.

You need to show you started looking for work in January, expect about 10 days punishment for starting late in addition to your waiting period.
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You cannot choose the RAV office, the RAV decide.
Not true. Where there are more than one office, a list is given by RAV and you can choose one. As this will be one where you will have your meetings with the RAV advisor, it will be convenient to you to choose one nearest where you live.

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For the initial appointment I physically have to walk into one so which one do I pick, or should I ring them first?

What do you mean by "present" it? Isn't it something they send to me?
No need to ring them first. Just call in at their office and they will give you a stack of papers including the Arbeitsgeberbescheinigung form to be filled out by your employer.

You should have a copy of your contract, your Zeugnisse (references) and all the other paperwork ready. These take time but can be prepared while waiting for the completed Arbeitsgeberbescheinigung form from your employer.

If you are not sure about any of the paperwork, you can always go back to the RAV office and ask them.

When all the paperwork is ready and submitted to RAV, they will let you know when your first appointment is.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Another RAV question

Sorry I don't know about Basel, but only about the kanton of Geneva and Vaud. Choose the one which is the closest to you.

So you chose where you register. Normally-heard some cases from Zurich when not-they required to give you an English speaker.
As usual for any official method, you will need a ID/passport, work permit and AVS card.

They will ask you to make your employer to fill out an attestation about your work you've done, including all of them.
They fired you, no problem, ask them to make you a written statement. Very important!

You can accidentally turn up at any time to register-you only have to fill out a form. Then you get your first appointment, just be aware that it is not in the meantime when you are still employed.

Good luck!

PS.: About your jobsearch don't forget to keep the 'evidence'-emails, ads, tel no.-because they are loosing their sheets very often.
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Re: Another RAV question

FWIW, I was told to start the process by announcing myself as arbeitslos with my Gemeinde. They then reported it to the RAV, and the RAV then mailed me a letter announcing the where and when of my appointment and telling me what to bring. It may well be handled differently from Kanton to Kanton, however.
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Re: Another RAV question

Ok just a quick update, I went in to the RAV on March 11th and they made an appointment for me for April 1st which is the day after my contract finishes. I won't have my "Arbeitgeberbescheinigung" by then as my agency told me they can only do it after the last payroll run which will be around April 10th, so I'm hoping I can send it in to them when I get it. Also the woman that I dealt with on reception told me I need to bring a translator as I don't speak much German.

I have a couple more questions:

- They gave me is a list of unemployment funds to select from, a public fund and 3 trades union funds. What's the difference between all these and which one should I choose? I'm not a member of any of the trades unions.
- The rules they gave me say that I'm required to attend counselling and follow-up sessions, stating that "The appointments are always fixed well in advance. You are also required to make certain that you can be reached within a day." Does this mean they could call me one day and I would need to come in to them the next day?
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Re: Another RAV question

The 4 unemployment kasse are in effect identical.

They can call you today & ask you to report for temporary work or a meeting tomorrow if they want. You need to be available for work, it's not a holiday.
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