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Salary Expectations for Lead Developer

Hello guys,

I'm in the process to be hired for a company in Zurich that need a Lead Developer.

The hiring process was a bit weird and after several interview also in-house I'm waiting for the final response.

The weird part is that the salary negotiation was just at the end of everything where usually they should ask and present the package at the beginning to see if our expectations match.

By the way I'm a Lead Developer with 10 years of experience in PHP and .NET currently leading a Scrum Team of around 10 persons acting also as a Manager.

Could you help me to understand which is the average of the market for my skills in Zurich ?

According to Glassdoor and other website looks like should be around 130K-140K but they were offering less than 100K and I was a bit shocked.

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Old 17.09.2014, 17:28
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Hello guys,

I'm in the process to be hired for a company in Zurich that need a Lead Developer.

The hiring process was a bit weird and after several interview also in-house I'm waiting for the final response.

The weird part is that the salary negotiation was just at the end of everything where usually they should ask and present the package at the beginning to see if our expectations match.

By the way I'm a Lead Developer with 10 years of experience in PHP and .NET currently leading a Scrum Team of around 10 persons acting also as a Manager.

Could you help me to understand which is the average of the market for my skills in Zurich ?

According to Glassdoor and other website looks like should be around 130K-140K but they were offering less than 100K and I was a bit shocked.

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Well, you really need to tell us more so we can help you. Is it a bank, insurance co. or a software shop? All these will pay wildly different salaries.

The average across all sectors is basically irrelevant because it is biased by outliers.
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Re: Salary Expectations for Lead Developer

Hello xynth,

thank you for the quick reply, anyway we are talking about a small company around 10 people in the marketing sector.
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According to Glassdoor and other website looks like should be around 130K-140K but they were offering less than 100K and I was a bit shocked.
Depends on the industry, but less than 100K sounds a bit low to me. I guess it's not in finance?
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Re: Salary Expectations for Lead Developer

small companies offer lower salaries generally speaking. 120 - 140 sounds about right, however keep in mind development is easily outsourced therefore i am not overly surprised seeing a lower salary.
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Re: Salary Expectations for Lead Developer

hi ispooky83

There are a few websites that keep some statistcs on salaries, and they allow you to make some simulations according to your profile.

This one for instance


You'll need to play with google translate a bit to fill the form, these sites are usually in german/french/italian languages.

Keywords to find them: "statistiques salaire suisse"

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The hiring process was a bit weird and after several interview also in-house I'm waiting for the final response.

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If the process was weird imagine the people , Assuming that you are considering such position I would probably guess they will negotiate you at around 90k. Which for the job a marketing company does is pretty good.
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small companies offer lower salaries generally speaking. 120 - 140 sounds about right, however keep in mind development is easily outsourced therefore i am not overly surprised seeing a lower salary.
Yes, its very easy to outsource development. However the management from that point onwards is not straightforward, the quality of deliverables is poor and usually behind schedule not to mention the issues caused by time zone and cultural differences.

I'm been involved in many offshore development projects and am yet to see which ever ended up being what I would call a success. So much better to have on site resources, a fact that companies will hopefully begin to wake up to one day!

Sorry, rant over... good luck with the job! I'd say 100k minimum, often Swiss companies like to recruit from abroad as the swiss want the going rate, expats often take lower wages then get over here and find that the cost of living was higher than expected.

Same happened to me, I asked for what I thought was enough to cover higher cost of living but had to negociate a raise, fortunately we came to an agreement. But much easier not to sell yourself short initially!
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