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Sean Connery 15.12.2014 19:11

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Originally Posted by jewelinthecrown (Post 2303064)
Its really interesting to note how negative some of our commentators are on this thread.


Why would you assume I have an axe to grind? Why would you assume the research is to have a negative outcome? Not me.

You're hardly Mrs. Positive ;)

Why the secret squirrel?

I'm just telling you how you're coming across. It's hardly negative, just based on how you post replies.

FuriousRose 15.12.2014 19:54

Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.
 
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Originally Posted by jewelinthecrown (Post 2303064)
...As I mentioned earlier, research is not predetermined with an outcome or answer. Lets see what the research says...

There is a hypothesis. And every research searches for an answer.

Anyway, I don't see your statement above has anything to do with the simple and basic questions that everyone on here raises.
You said it's a self-funded study. Is it for your own personal interest? Or for your academic study?
These are genuine questions.

Guest 15.12.2014 20:17

Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jewelinthecrown (Post 2303064)
Its really interesting to note how negative some of our commentators are on this thread.


Why would you assume I have an axe to grind? Why would you assume the research is to have a negative outcome? Not me.


As I mentioned earlier, research is not predetermined with an outcome or answer. Lets see what the research says.


For the EFers who have been really supportive with their personal compliments, you know who you are :p


Here's a quote for you to chew on; "Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply". Stephen R Covey


Enjoy!

That doesn't apply to you then, eh.

Sean Connery 15.12.2014 20:21

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Dear all,
I'm doing a self-funded study on the breasts of women located in towns and cities in Switzerland which have a vowel in the name. Please send me pictures of your boobs should you qualify.

This is important research and if you send me pictures, I may select you for a further sampling.

Boomshanka,
Sean

rob1 15.12.2014 20:22

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It all started when our over-heralded star, candy cane, woke up in a fantastic pumpkin patch. It was the second time it had happened. Feeling ridiculously stunned, candy cane punched a potato, thinking it would make her feel better (but as usual, it did not). A few unsatisfying minutes later, she realized that her beloved rampant rabbit sex toy was missing!

Immediately she called her vicariously jealous friend, big leroy (with a massive penis) . candy cane had known big leroy with a massive penis for (plus or minus) 20 years, the majority of which were erotic ones. big leroy with a massive penis was unique He was outgoing though sometimes a little... pestering. candy cane called him anyway, for the situation was urgent.

big leroy with a massive penis picked up to a very happy candy cane. big leroy with a massive penis calmly assured her that most albino cats belch before mating, yet legless puppies usually indiscriminately cringe *after* mating. He had no idea what that meant; he was only concerned with distracting candy cane. Why was big leroy with a massive penis trying to distract candy cane? Because he had snuck out from candy cane's with the rampant rabbit sex toy only seven days prior. It was a sassy little rampant rabbit sex toy... how could he resist?

It didn't take long before candy cane got back to the subject at hand: her rampant rabbit sex toy. big leroy with a massive penis yawned. Relunctantly, big leroy with a massive penis invited her over, assuring her they'd find the rampant rabbit sex toy. candy cane grabbed her rhinocerus and disembarked immediately. After hanging up the phone, big leroy with a massive penis realized that he was in trouble. He had to find a place to hide the rampant rabbit sex toy and he had to do it fearlessly. He figured that if candy cane took the wannabe go-fast Civic, he had take at least four minutes before candy cane would get there. But if she took the fanny wagon? Then big leroy with a massive penis would be abnormally screwed.

Before he could come up with any reasonable ideas, big leroy with a massive penis was interrupted by three selfish goats that were lured by his rampant rabbit sex toy. big leroy with a massive penis cringed; 'Not again', he thought. Feeling relieved, he fearlessly reached for his live hand grenade and carefully attacked every last one of them. Apparently this was an adequate deterrent--the discouraged critters began to scurry back toward the swamp, squealing with discontent. He exhaled with relief. That's when he heard the fanny wagon rolling up. It was candy cane.



As she pulled up, she felt a sense of urgency. She had had to make an unscheduled stop at Wal-Mart to pick up a 12-pack of bananas, so she knew she was running late. With a apt leap, candy cane was out of the fanny wagon and went wildly jaunting toward big leroy with a massive penis's front door. Meanwhile inside, big leroy with a massive penis was panicking. Not thinking, he tossed the rampant rabbit sex toy into a box of potatos and then slid the box behind his rhinocerus. big leroy with a massive penis was relieved but at least the rampant rabbit sex toy was concealed. The doorbell rang.

'Come in,' big leroy with a massive penis earnestly purred. With a deft push, candy cane opened the door. 'Sorry for being late, but I was being chased by some insensitive spite-toting jerk in a noise-polluting import,' she lied. 'It's fine,' big leroy with a massive penis assured her. candy cane took a seat nearby where big leroy with a massive penis had hidden the rampant rabbit sex toy. big leroy with a massive penis grimaced trying unsuccessfully to hide his nervousness. 'Uhh, can I get you anything?' he blurted. But candy cane was distracted. As if it really mattered big leroy with a massive penis noticed a clueless look on candy cane's face. candy cane slowly opened her mouth to speak.

'...What's that smell?'

big leroy with a massive penis felt a stabbing pain in his love handle when candy cane asked this. In a moment of disbelief, he realized that he had hidden the rampant rabbit sex toy right by his oscillating fan. 'Wh-what? I don't smell anything..!' A lie. A funny-smelling look started to form on candy cane's face. She turned to notice a box that seemed clearly out of place. 'Th-th-those are just my grandma's gerbils from when she used to have pet South American hissing sloths. She, uh...dropped 'em by here earlier'. candy cane nodded with fake acknowledgement...then, before big leroy with a massive penis could react, candy cane aimlessly lunged toward the box and opened it. The rampant rabbit sex toy was plainly in view.

candy cane stared at big leroy with a massive penis for what what must've been five microseconds. As if it really mattered big leroy with a massive penis groped sassily in candy cane's direction, clearly desperate. candy cane grabbed the rampant rabbit sex toy and bolted for the door. It was locked. big leroy with a massive penis let out a electric chuckle. 'If only you hadn't been so protective of that thing, none of this would have happened, candy cane,' he rebuked. big leroy with a massive penis always had been a little funny-smelling, so candy cane knew that reconciliation was not an option; she needed to escape before big leroy with a massive penis did something crazy, like... start chucking carrots at him or something. Happy as a frickin' monkey, she gripped her rampant rabbit sex toy tightly and made a dash toward the window, diving headlong through the glass panels.

big leroy with a massive penis looked on, blankly. 'What the hell? That seemed excessive. The other door was open, you know.' Silence from candy cane. 'And to think, I varnished that window frame two days ago...it never ends!' Suddenly he felt a tinge of concern for candy cane. 'Oh. You ..okay?' Still silence. big leroy with a massive penis walked over to the window and looked down. candy cane was gone.



Just yonder, candy cane was struggling to make her way through the foxy forest behind big leroy with a massive penis's place. candy cane had severely hurt her double chin during the window incident, and was starting to lose strength. Another pack of feral goats suddenly appeared, having caught wind of the rampant rabbit sex toy. One by one they latched on to candy cane. Already weakened from her injury, candy cane yielded to the furry onslaught and collapsed. The last thing she saw before losing consciousness was a buzzing horde of goats running off with her rampant rabbit sex toy.

About three hours later, candy cane awoke, her taint throbbing. It was dark and candy cane did not know where she was. Deep in the broad bush, candy cane was scarcely lost. In a tragically predictable turn of events, she remembered that her rampant rabbit sex toy was taken by the goats. But at that point, she was just thankful for her life. That's when, to her horror, a bloated goat emerged from the disease-infested jungle. It was the alpha goat. candy cane opened her mouth to scream but was cut short when the goat sunk its teeth into candy cane's fingernail. With a faint groan, the life escaped from candy cane's lungs, but not before she realized that she was a failure.

Less than six miles away, big leroy with a massive penis was entombed by anguish over the loss of the rampant rabbit sex toy. 'MY PRECIOUS!!' he cried, as he reached for a sharpened potato. With a heroic thrust, he buried it deeply into his shin. As the room began to fade to black, he thought about candy cane... wishing he had found the courage to tell her that he loved her. But he would die alone that day. All that remained was the rampant rabbit sex toy that had turned them against each other, ultimately causing their demise. And as the dew on melancholy sappling branches began to reflect the dawn's reddish glare, all that could be heard was the chilling cry of distant goats, desecrating all things sacred to virtuous men, and perpetuating an evil that would reign for centuries to come. Our heroes would've lived unhappily ever after, but they were too busy being dead.

So, no one lived forever after, the end. :'(

Guest 15.12.2014 21:49

Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.
 
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Originally Posted by rob1 (Post 2303114)
It all started when our over-heralded star, candy cane, woke up in a fantastic pumpkin patch.


... and so on ...


the end. :'(

100,000 monkeys on 100,000 typewriters for 1,000 years?

jewelinthecrown 15.12.2014 21:49

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Wow, who knew Kelly Services and Novartis could inspire such 'interesting' expressions.


Thank you again Rob1.


I think everyone can agree you have really outdone yourself in your latest post.

slammer 15.12.2014 21:56

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100,000 monkeys on 100,000 typewriters for 1,000 years?
....came up with the plot for "Here comes Honey Boo Boo" now if it had been 1.000.000 monkeys, 1.000.000 I-Macīs and a thousand years...!

Medea Fleecestealer 15.12.2014 22:03

Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.
 
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Originally Posted by slammer (Post 2303175)
....came up with the plot for "Here comes Honey Boo Boo" now if it had been 1.000.000 monkeys, 1.000.000 I-Macīs and a thousand years...!

... it would have been "Million Dollar Listings". :eek:

mirfield 16.12.2014 00:43

Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.
 
I'm guessing my guesses of yes, yes and yes were right then?

jewelinthecrown 16.12.2014 12:50

Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.
 
New day and another round in the arena of the EF.


I have a quote for the regulars.


"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."
Winston Churchill
I think apt to bring back the focus to my original request.


A previous report on the Globalisation of the temporary staffing industry (ESRC) from the European Work and Employment Research Centre is my reference.

I intend on investigating further using Kelly Services and their relationship with Novartis as a case study.

Identifying whether this has an impact on salary levels and employee conditions in Switzerland.

If it does have an impact, exploring what the impact is.


Anyone who has experience of working at Novartis via Kelly Services are requested to PM if they have an interest in participating.


There is a due process in place as individuals not put off by the disparaging comments in the thread are learning.


Thank you in advance for your attention to this message.

dodgyken 16.12.2014 12:58

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Not exactly difficult questions to answer are they :D

VFR on top 16.12.2014 12:59

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Why not all temporary staffing agencies used by Novartis? Won't pre-selecting skew your results?

BTW - I am a disgruntled Kelly/Novartis employee and I will dish dirt. Do your volunteers get paid by chance?

JK on employment history. But do you pay? I can make stuff up. Seems to be going around...

Guest 16.12.2014 13:01

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Originally Posted by VFR on top (Post 2303529)
Do your volunteers get paid by chance?


Yup. Throw a six and you get paid. Throw any other number and you have to pay the researcher.

bigblue2 16.12.2014 13:01

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I have a huge distrust of people who feel the need to add famous quotes to there posts, it doesn't make you come across as educated or trustworthy, it just make you look like a precocious twat

dodgyken 16.12.2014 13:02

Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.
 
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Originally Posted by bigblue2 (Post 2303533)
"I have a huge distrust of people who feel the need to add famous quotes to their posts, it doesn't make you come across as educated or trustworthy, it just make you look like a precocious twat" Abraham Lincoln

Fixed that for you

:D:D

Guest 16.12.2014 13:06

Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigblue2 (Post 2303533)
I have a huge distrust of people who feel the need to add famous quotes to there posts, it doesn't make you come across as educated or trustworthy, it just make you look like a precocious twat


What? Even Seferis? :eek:

MidfieldGeneral 16.12.2014 13:08

Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.
 
quaecumque vera doce me

Medea Fleecestealer 16.12.2014 13:33

Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jewelinthecrown (Post 2303518)
New day and another round in the arena of the EF.


I have a quote for the regulars.


"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."
Winston Churchill
I think apt to bring back the focus to my original request.


A previous report on the Globalisation of the temporary staffing industry (ESRC) from the European Work and Employment Research Centre is my reference.

I intend on investigating further using Kelly Services and their relationship with Novartis as a case study.

Identifying whether this has an impact on salary levels and employee conditions in Switzerland.

If it does have an impact, exploring what the impact is.


Anyone who has experience of working at Novartis via Kelly Services are requested to PM if they have an interest in participating.


There is a due process in place as individuals not put off by the disparaging comments in the thread are learning.


Thank you in advance for your attention to this message.

Um, no, this was your original request:

"I am looking to undertake some research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.


I have more information for anyone interested so please PM me.


I also welcome any experiences of Kelly Services and Novartis in general that people wish to share.


Thank you in advance for your attention to this thread."

And still waiting for answers to the questions:

why are you doing this research, i.e. has someone asked you to or is this a private study of your own?
if private, why?
to what purpose will the results of the study be put?
what qualifications do you have to run such a study?

These are simple questions and you should easily be able to answer them without compromising said study. Why you feel you can't make the answers public is beyond me. After all, all we want is the truth about why you need/want this info to start with.

greenmount 16.12.2014 13:59

Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jewelinthecrown (Post 2303064)
Its really interesting to note how negative some of our commentators are on this thread.


Why would you assume I have an axe to grind? Why would you assume the research is to have a negative outcome? Not me.


As I mentioned earlier, research is not predetermined with an outcome or answer. Lets see what the research says.


For the EFers who have been really supportive with their personal compliments, you know who you are :p


Here's a quote for you to chew on; "Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply". Stephen R Covey


Enjoy!

OP, bear in mind that quite a few people here either work for Novartis or some member of the family does. How would you expect anyone in his right minds to answer to pretty personal questions - you mentioned something about salary if I recollect correctly, work conditions, or? Why, who would bite the hand who feeds him?
Yeah, big ugly multinational that manages to pay dam' good salaries in Switzerland. I'll start throwing mud at other companies too you know, just to help someone to find out the Truth. Sure. You do seam like a disgruntled ex employee...I think it's better to move on. Lots of unhappy employees decide to look for another job, focus on their life.
Working for Novartis in Switzerland is not quite like working for Nike in China. Seriously, get a grip.


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