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Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.

So where are we now? I'm confused.
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I actually took the time to read through the 6 pages of rubbish this thread turned into and I really wonder why people are still replying to the OP?
Not sure- but there would be a good place to start.
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Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.

Ok, here's a question for everyone.


Referencing Madea Fleece.... or was it 22yards or one of the EF crew.


Would I have had a less hostile response if I had picked two different companies with the same relationship?


I've mentioned before I have heard rumours about Kelly Services and Novartis. Their reputations precede them in a big way for anyone who has spent any time in Switzerland.


It makes them most interesting to begin with from a research perspective.


Maybe I have been hanging around in the wrong crowd and have been given a skewed view as accused of by someone on the thread previously.


Please give me some other suggestions since there appears to be such a wealth of knowledge on the forum especially from the regulars. You know who you are.


BTW, bb2, I would really like to hear your comments, you always have something really useful to contribute
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Old 16.12.2014, 18:52
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Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.

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Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.

Op, people on this forum asked you to be more transparent and to answer the questions asked. No one wants to know your name, your age and what you ate for dinner.

Just answer the questions, it's as simple as that!
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Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.

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Ok, here's a question for everyone.


Referencing Madea Fleece.... or was it 22yards or one of the EF crew.


Would I have had a less hostile response if I had picked two different companies with the same relationship?


I've mentioned before I have heard rumours about Kelly Services and Novartis. Their reputations precede them in a big way for anyone who has spent any time in Switzerland.


It makes them most interesting to begin with from a research perspective.


Maybe I have been hanging around in the wrong crowd and have been given a skewed view as accused of by someone on the thread previously.


Please give me some other suggestions since there appears to be such a wealth of knowledge on the forum especially from the regulars. You know who you are.


BTW, bb2, I would really like to hear your comments, you always have something really useful to contribute
Frankly I don't understand why don't you give up. You're obviously not going to find anyone here willing to take part in your study. C'mon OP...."winning" a battle on EF is not that glorious and rewarding as you are now tempted to believe.
Try to find in other places your sample of participants for your research.
Save yourself nerves and energy, for your own sake.
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Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.

Which is why I'd suggest ignoring edit: her until he does. Edit : she... is just stirring (trolling)- watch edit: her groan again (as if I care).

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Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.

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Which is why I'd suggest ignoring him until he does. He is just stirring (trolling)- watch him groan again (as if I care).
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Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.

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Which is why I'd suggest ignoring him until he does. He is just stirring (trolling)- watch him groan again (as if I care).
He is a she.
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Old 16.12.2014, 20:37
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Would I have had a less hostile response if I had picked two different companies with the same relationship?
I think the fact that you picked just two companies is the problem. That doesn't really sound like "research". It sounds like someone who wants "dirt" and inside information.

If you want to know how they work, good/bad experience because you want to work for them/not work for them, got a job offer, used to work for one now want to work for the other, etc, etc., you might have gotten a better response.

It's the "research" angle that doesn't sound real.

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I've mentioned before I have heard rumours about Kelly Services and Novartis.
I haven't. What are these rumors?

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Their reputations precede them in a big way for anyone who has spent any time in Switzerland.
No. It doesn't.

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It makes them most interesting to begin with from a research perspective.
To what end?

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Maybe I have been hanging around in the wrong crowd and have been given a skewed view as accused of by someone on the thread previously.
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner.



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No one wants to know.... what you ate for dinner.
Sure they do. But I think that's a one of Tom's never ending threads.
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Old 16.12.2014, 21:35
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I think the fact that you picked just two companies is the problem. That doesn't really sound like "research". It sounds like someone who wants "dirt" and inside information....
It's actually fine to choose two companies as long as it has legitimate reasons, for example these two companies haven't been so much researched.

However, having a research based on the following background

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...I've mentioned before I have heard rumours about Kelly Services and Novartis. Their reputations precede them in a big way for anyone who has spent any time in Switzerland.


It makes them most interesting to begin with from a research perspective. ..
is certainly not a legitimate one, let alone talking about the state of the art about the current knowledge of the topic.

OP, I have been asking genuine questions as a researcher myself, but haven't received any reply. Instead, you're actually entertaining everyone on EF. Are you a troll researcher, if that thing even exists?
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Old 16.12.2014, 21:46
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I think that's a one of Tom's never ending threads.
My only one, I think.

And, ironically, one that has stayed on topic.

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He is a she.
Prove it.

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Re: Research on experiences of employees contracted via Kelly Services at Novartis.

Perhaps an Economista
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I've mentioned before I have heard rumours about Kelly Services and Novartis. Their reputations precede them in a big way for anyone who has spent any time in Switzerland.
32+ years here and I've never heard any, so your sources are shit.

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It's actually fine to choose two companies as long as it has legitimate reasons, for example these two companies haven't been so much researched.
Certainly I will differ to your expertise.

It's all the talk of "rumors" that somehow everyone "who has spent and time in Switzerland should know" about and her mentioning that Novartis working with Kelly Services is impacting salaries "in Switzerland" (if my memory is correct, I didn't go back and check) that sort of raises questions.

If you are in Basel, these two companies might have some sort of impact. I doubt they make an impact on all of Switzerland. If her goal is to find out the impact multi-nationals using interim companies for staffing on the employment market in Switzerland her project is flawed. She should be including more companies and interim agencies.

Of course if she wants to spend time on a flawed premiss that's her business. I think though that many on this thread question if that is really her motive.

Not that I agree that everyone should pile on.
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I think your comment constitutes a step too far BB2.


Why should I bugger off?


Moderator?
Yup?

(Sorry I'm late. I mistakenly ventured into the real world. They have coffee there! And places to do Christmas shopping where you can look at and touch stuff before you actually buy it!

I can't guarantee I'll respond promptly in the next 7 hours, either; the cricket just started.)
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Is that the highly aclaimed match between Kelly Services & Novartis ?
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(Sorry I'm late. I mistakenly ventured into the real world. They have coffee there! And places to do Christmas shopping where you can look at and touch stuff before you actually buy it!)
I went Christmas shopping last week and touched stuff too - it was very exciting.

Saying that though, the police advised it was not OK to touch the stuff while other people were wearing it. I'll let you know what the judge says about it in January.

The good news is that they didn't find the cameras in the changing rooms of me watching other people touching the stuff.
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