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Farm worker

Any site-place where i cand find advertisements for farm workers;
Does anyone know the salaries in theese jobs and from wich countries do employers prefer to hire workers;
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Any site-place where i cand find advertisements for farm workers;
Does anyone know the salaries in theese jobs and from wich countries do employers prefer to hire workers;
Sorry, i have found enough information, after searching, but i cant delete the post.
Anyway, any information would be usefull
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Re: Farm worker

Hello,
I found a farm job with 3400Fr Salary and Net amount 1600Fr after all has been holded (security, taxes, accomodation and food, etc)
I will stay in the farm.
Do you think it is a fair salary for such a job;

Thank you
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Hello,
I found a farm job with 3400Fr Salary and Net amount 1600Fr after all has been holded (security, taxes, accomodation and food, etc)
I will stay in the farm.
Do you think it is a fair salary for such a job;

Thank you
google for lohnrechner (wage calculator) schweiz. there are a few websites.

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Hello,
I found a farm job with 3400Fr Salary and Net amount 1600Fr after all has been withheld (security, taxes, accommodation and food, etc)
I will stay in the farm.
Do you think it is a fair salary for such a job;

Thank you
Yes, for farm work it is a fair salary, and I wish you a good time here.

The Swiss are not very friendly people, but they will tell you if they are not happy with you.
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Re: Farm worker

There is a magazine in the French part called 'Terre et Nature' with an advertisement section for farm equipment, tractors, animals both domestic and farm, and jobs. But these days there are each week lots and lots of East Europeans asking for jobs- and so farmers can and do often offer poor salary and conditions, knowing that there is a queue waiting.

It's a good salary for a farm job. I am not sure if Sbrinz meant to write 'the Swiss are not friendly people' or not. I disagree- as everywhere, some are and some are not. And as everywhere, farmers tend to be very direct to the point of beind abrupt at times. Some are better than others.

Bonne chance, tell us how you get on. Do you speak the local language at all? Do you have any experience in the field? Which part of Switzerland are you headed (interrogation over ) so that if anyone on EF is nearby can help you settle in - have fun but you will have to get up early, VERY early...
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Bonne chance, tell us how you get on. Do you speak the local language at all? Do you have any experience in the field? Which part of Switzerland are you headed (interrogation over ) so that if anyone on EF is nearby can help you settle in - have fun but you will have to get up early, VERY early...
I speak German in a middle level. Huge experience in the field, but also huge experience in other kind of jobs, a lot easier than that.
It s unfair for a farm employee to win half the money from a 5 days/8 hours employee from other sectors.
And he works much harder for more hours and every day.
By the way, what is the NET amount for a 30 years old boy who just takes a position in a supermarket; (e.g. Migros) with 8 hours work;
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The Swiss are not very friendly people, but they will tell you if they are not happy with you.
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I speak German in a middle level. Huge experience in the field, but also huge experience in other kind of jobs, a lot easier than that.
It s unfair for a farm employee to win half the money from a 5 days/8 hours employee from other sectors.
And he works much harder for more hours and every day.
By the way, what is the NET amount for a 30 years old boy who just takes a position in a supermarket; (e.g. Migros) with 8 hours work;
Answering some of the questions... The normal working week in Switzerland is around 42 hours, not including unpaid 30 minute break, so a working day could be 7-4, 8-5, 9-6... So more like 9 hours per day.

Most unqualified jobs (childcare assistants, supermarket helpers, office assistants) go to interns ('praktikant/in') in German, and they leave school at 15-18 and do work experience or an apprenticeship. They get paid maybe 1000-1500 per month and it is assumed that they are living at home and their parents pay most of their living costs.

If it's seasonal work and short-term then it makes sense that the farmer provides the accommodation and food and you don't have to find your own place to live, so the money 'in your hand' should be for recreation, clothing, transport, saving money to send back home ....who pays the health insurance?
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1. They get paid maybe 1000-1500 per month and it is assumed that they are living at home and their parents pay most of their living costs.

2. Who pays the health insurance?
1. 1000 per month in Swiss; I hope Brutto amount is much higher, so other kind of benefits are included (pension, etc)

2. I reffered to Brutto and Net amount, so what is the importance of this; In fact, i dont know wich of 2 pays that
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Re: Farm worker

I'm sure Sbrinz meant to write 'Swiss farmers are not very friendly' (to people they don't know) - which is closer to the mark.
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Re: Farm worker

ooops, yes Swiss 'farmers' but I stick to what I said. Some are friendly, some are not. Around here, most of them are friendly, even though they may be a bit rough around the edges, and I'd be glad to work for them.
One is not- and I would defo NOT work for him - he uses undeclared slave labour too.

Re health insurance, your really need to check up on that. Normally you should pay for your health insurance, which takes a chunk out of a low salary, but as you work over 8hrs per week- he has to pay your accident insurance. But make sure he does- and check re health insurance (Health and accident are 2 separate things here. Many people do not realise this and think they are covered for accidents when they are not.
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Re: Farm worker

If you have worked in an office for some years, then changing to farm work, you would find the physical side very hard initially.

After some time you will find it easier.

May I ask you, what type of food and accommodation are you provided with as a Farm Worker?

Are you provided with both laundry and internet facilities?

I know this is a big change for you, but if it is your intention to stay in Switzerland for some years, then it will give you the chance to save some money.

Things like finding your own accommodation; usually you need to provide 3 months deposit & it is often usual to provide your own
furnishings down to the light switches and covers in some cases.

Good luck to you, hope with your hard work, life considerable improves for you over time.
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If you have worked in an office for some years, then changing to farm work, you would find the physical side very hard initially.

After some time you will find it easier.

May I ask you, what type of food and accommodation are you provided with as a Farm Worker?

Are you provided with both laundry and internet facilities?

I know this is a big change for you, but if it is your intention to stay in Switzerland for some years, then it will give you the chance to save some money.

Things like finding your own accommodation; usually you need to provide 3 months deposit & it is often usual to provide your own
furnishings down to the light switches and covers in some cases.

Good luck to you, hope with your hard work, life considerable improves for you over time.
I had my own animal-farm for many years, and somewhen i took an office job, and for some years i made the 2 jobs together (with cooperator and workers). I dont find any difficulty in the job. It is only 1 week ypothesis to find your rythm.
From some option, its much better than some toxic office jobs. Of course, it is more difficult to be an employee than an employer, but everything in jobs has to do with money. When money are good, every job can be paradise. When money are little, every job can become hell.
The reason i look for such a job is what you just said for accomodation. It is very difficult in Swis and finding a house is a kind of commitment that needs a permanent job. Unfortunately, my German-Switz language is not enough yet, to find a good city job, that is my final purpose, so i look for something more temporary until i improve my language enough.
For your question about accomodation, the answer is that its all included (money i take are after accomondation and food paid).

I didnt see enough answers from you, if this money is enough for country salary levels
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I didnt see enough answers from you, if this money is enough for country salary levels
As Odile and Sbrinz said, it is a good salary.
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As Odile and Sbrinz said, it is a good salary.
It is a monthly rent for a Zurich appartment
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Exactly- so with Swiss prices for accomodation and food- you are saving a fortune by living in and fed- so the rest is all in the pocket (however, do check on insurance which is about 300 a month).
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Exactly- so with Swiss prices for accomodation and food- you are saving a fortune by living in and fed- so the rest is all in the pocket (however, do check on insurance which is about 300 a month).
As insurance you mean something of these following;

Unfallversicherung,
AHV,
Krankentaggeld,
Quellensteuer
Pensionskassenbeitrages

all above are paid
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Unfallversicherung is the accident insurance that the employer must pay. Health insurance to cover other health problems is separate, and not on the list- and therefore (as per normal) your responsibility.

At least it seems all other pension, etc, will be paid (which is not always the case for foreign farm workers who are paid cash in hand).
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For your question about accomodation, the answer is that its all included (money i take are after accomondation and food paid).

I didnt see enough answers from you, if this money is enough for country salary levels
thanks for your reply. I know that accommodation and food is supplied. My questions are what type of accommodation are you provided with?

i.e. do you share a sleeping room with others
or
do you have your own sleeping room

Food:
Are you provided with cooked meals
or you provided with food and have to cook yourself

I have never spoken to a worker on a Farm in Switzerland so that is why I am asking?

Back to your question yes I do know people on the money you earn before the deductions for accommodation and food & they manage the best way they can.

I know people on less money as they do not have a job 100%. They are reliant to a large degree on help with accommodation through family or friends.

A female Swiss friend, age 35+ has been unsuccessful in recent years finding a full time job. At one time she moved in to live with her mother. Then later moved in with her uncle and aunt in another part of Switzerland. She has one part time job and is constantly looking for either another part time job or a full time job. Her situation has been like that for a few years.

There are people unemployed or working part time in Switzerland.

There are also people who earn 100K+ a year, as is the case in other countries.
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