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Anyone works in pharma or medical device industry? I find it very difficult to get in

I am a biology phd student at the moment, and i will be graduating this year. I am interested to work as a regulatory affairs professional in the future. so I took online courses and every training opportunities that I could find. I have been trying so hard to get a regulatory affairs entry level jobs so hard, but I did not even get an interview... I guess that is because I do not have any real world experiences.

I know it is very important to get some experiences directly from the industry, but how can i get it when every job requires/prefers the applicants to have some experiences.

If any one knows any opportunity or any thing worth trying (e.g., unsolicited application) in Switzerland, please enlighten me!! I won't even require any pay or salary, I just want to get an opportunity to get some experiences.
I am really confused here, I am afraid the results will be the same, no matter how many hundred of application I send out...

How can I improve the situation here?
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Old 19.04.2015, 21:02
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Re: Anyone works in pharma or medical device industry? I find it very difficult to ge

I have never been in the pharma industry, but I have two friends whom are, one in regulatory affairs.

I believe your problem is you do not yet have 20 years experience. The salary is very good, but perhaps that is because you would be working with foreign government departments, convincing them your company's products and manufacturing processes are safe and the quality can be proven to be good.

Good luck, and I hope you find your first job soon.
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Re: Anyone works in pharma or medical device industry? I find it very difficult to ge

I work in Pharma and do the odd bit of regulatory work - basically without experience it is quite difficult to break into - just a year or 2 will help massively.

You need to find someone who is willing to train you from scratch, or get an entry level job in pharma that is non-regulatory (but still medical/scientific) to get some experience, then try go sideways to a regulatory job.

That said, once you are good at it then you can do really well - Regulatory is a very complex area and can take a lifetime to even get half decent at!

Good luck!
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I won't even require any pay or salary, I just want to get an opportunity to get some experiences.
Unfortunately, the Swiss authorities will. Broaden your search criteria. If there aren't any entry level jobs in regulatory affairs what jobs are there in related areas that you could apply for?

Also what is your nationality and are you studying in Switzerland?
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Unfortunately, the Swiss authorities will. Broaden your search criteria. If there aren't any entry level jobs in regulatory affairs what jobs are there in related areas that you could apply for?

Also what is your nationality and are you studying in Switzerland?
In my case, I interested in any job that can help me to establish the skillset a RA would need. But my field of research is so basic, which make it very difficult to find a research job in the industry...

I am not a EU citizen, but I study in Switzerland, which means I don't really have the permit B problem within 6 months after my graduation. The more important thing is to find a company which is willing to accept me as a entry level employee.
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There's a fairly good rate of progression, within our large pharma in Basel, for youngsters starting as administrative assistants and working their way into a 'proper' job once they've gained some experience.

Ideally for you of course would be an admin job within RA, but I'd look for any such role if I were you - once you're in you stand a much better chance of seeing and being considered for any new positions coming available.
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I work in Pharma and do the odd bit of regulatory work - basically without experience it is quite difficult to break into - just a year or 2 will help massively.

You need to find someone who is willing to train you from scratch, or get an entry level job in pharma that is non-regulatory (but still medical/scientific) to get some experience, then try go sideways to a regulatory job.

That said, once you are good at it then you can do really well - Regulatory is a very complex area and can take a lifetime to even get half decent at!

Good luck!
This. I also work in Pharma and collaborate frequently with our regulatory people. Without experience, it's a tough field to break into, but try for a post in process development or validation or similar to begin with and try to move sideways one you're familiar with the company and products.

Having said that, it beats me why anyone would willingly want to deal with regulators on a daily basis .
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About 50% of them, like any other industry !
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I am a biology phd student at the moment, and i will be graduating this year. I am interested to work as a regulatory affairs professional in the future. so I took online courses and every training opportunities that I could find. I have been trying so hard to get a regulatory affairs entry level jobs so hard, but I did not even get an interview... I guess that is because I do not have any real world experiences....
There are some jobs that simply are not entry level. You should aim at getting a job in Pharma, suitable for your qualifications, then strategically working your way closer.
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Re: Anyone works in pharma or medical device industry? I find it very difficult to ge

Problem one: Swiss (big) Pharma is not the place to look for entry-level jobs right now. Come back in 5 years and things will be different.

Problem two: RA is not a typical entry-level area and there won't be a whole lot of options to choose from. So I second the previous advice to look for other entry-level positions and maybe transfer to RA at some later point in your career.

Comment three: it's not allowed to work for free in Switzerland unless it's a dedicated volunteering program, which of course any position you would take won't be.

Comment four: even with a degree from a Swiss university, any work permit application is still subject to a detailed check, i.e. just because you studied in Switzerland does not guarantee you get a permit - it just entitles you to a somewhat simpler process. The job you are interested in still has to be of "significant value" in Switzerland and it's questionable that this holds true for an entry-level RA job. Also, most employer are NOT aware of this rule and might reject you simply as it's typically impossible to get a work permit for a non-EU with no work experience.

So bottom line: expand your search, in every way possible, geographically, in terms of specialty and in terms of industry, as an entry-level RA job in Switzerland will probably not happen within a reasonable timeframe.
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Re: Anyone works in pharma or medical device industry? I find it very difficult to ge

I would totally agree with the advice other's have given you get in and then work your way towards the area you want! Good Luck!
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Re: Anyone works in pharma or medical device industry? I find it very difficult to ge

I've just managed to get my first job outside of academia after finishing my PhD.

It was bloody difficult. There are a LOT of new PhDs about just now. I interviewed for a entry level medical writing position in Switzerland. For that one position they got 650 applications

I'm starting as a CRA next week in the UK. Not necessarily something that requires a PhD, but it's a foot in the door and with the current market beggars can't be choosers.
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