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Employers and Emplyment Agencies for Marketing & Communications

We are arriving in Zurich in early December. I have already accepted a job, though my partner will be looking for work immediately.

We have done quite alot of research, but wanted to check if anyone have any recommendations for employers or agencies which offer Marketing and/or Communications positions?

She is degree-qualified, English speaking, good relevant experience. She is flexible on the type of organisation.

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Re: Employers and Emplyment Agencies for Marketing & Communications

Would suggest searching for marketing and communications positions on Swiss job boards. The Auslandschweizer-Organisation has a fairly comprehensive list of these boards at this link:

http://aso.ch/en/consultation/back-t...-to-find-a-job
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This will depend on what permit you get. If it's a B then there won't be any problem in her being able to work. If it's an L though then any employer will have to ask permission to be able to hire her as there are restrictions on L dependent permit holders being allowed to work here.

"Members of the family of a short stay (L) permit holder (art. 26 OASA) do not have a right to gainful employment. The gainful activity is subject to authorization.

On admission, a request by the employer respecting the pay and conditions of employment customary in the locality and in the branch must be made. In addition, members of the family of a short stay permit holder (art. 26OASA) must have professional qualifications (personal qualifications, Art. 23 AuG).

The possibility of gainful employment for family members is related, according to art. OASA 26 and 27, to the duration of the authorization of the person granted family reunification. If the residence permit of the spouse is not renewed, the members of his family cannot claim a right to pursue their gainful employment (art.6, para. 2, OASA)."

"By constrast, members of the family of a holder of a residence (B) permit do not have a right to gainful employment. However, given the general objectives of the Foreign Nationals Act (better integration of the foreign population), the legislature decided not to submit gainful employment authorization."

(Section 4.4.1 of the Foreign Nationals Act)

And what do you mean by partner? Is she also non-EU? Are you married? Because if not, she can't just turn up with you and expect to be let in. She either needs a pre-approved job offer of her own or you need to apply for a concubine permit for her. For this you need to agree to be financially responsible for her for 5 years and she may not be able to work with that permit.
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Re: Employers and Emplyment Agencies for Marketing & Communications

Honestly: while the work permit is usually the biggest barrier am I in this case not sure it is - the biggest issue is to try to work in communications without speaking the local language.

I am not saying it is impossible, but this limits you to some 2-5% of the job market as it is not just only the international companies, but exclusively the ones who are so international that everything is in English.
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Re: Employers and Emplyment Agencies for Marketing & Communications

Thanks for the responses so far. We are an unmarried couple. Both British citizens, so EU. As I understand it, I will receive a B-Permit upon arrival. I have a job already. She will register for the first three months as a job-seeker. This will be extended up to one year, with me able to financially support her. My employer seems to think this is the way it will work.

I see the point about the language issue. I speak zero German but will be working for an English speaking company, where it is not required. Maybe she should edge away from the 'communications' part and stick more to marketing, where it may be slightly less of an issue.
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Yes that won't be a problem if you're both EU nationals. I don't think marketing will require any less language skills than communications though. She'll still be expected to work in a Swiss language most of the time as that's what the marketing will be in/aimed at unless it's a big international company.
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Re: Employers and Emplyment Agencies for Marketing & Communications

Thanks for the response. Like me, working for a large international (mainly English speaking) company will be her only option, assuming she is to stay in this field. We were aware of this fortunately, and expected this to be the case.
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Thanks for the response. Like me, working for a large international (mainly English speaking) company will be her only option, assuming she is to stay in this field. We were aware of this fortunately, and expected this to be the case.
And it's far from impossible. This forum is full of people who have been in the country for years but still don't speak German... all I am saying is that she is better prepared to write a LOT of applications and experience a frustrating time not finding a job. She could be lucky and land one in a few weeks, but searching for 4-6 months and writing 200 applications would not be that unusual. No big deal with the right mind-set, but can become a real frustration after some months.
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Re: Employers and Emplyment Agencies for Marketing & Communications

I wouldn't be surprised if it does take that long to be honest. She will proceed with a positive mindset, prepare for the worst but hope for the best. We don't have any major financial concerns and she has a number of other things to keep her mid active so no major pressure, but admittedly after finding a place to live, that will be the priority.

She is researching the job market, tailoring her applications and will start applying for positions imminently. Hopefully she makes some good progress.

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Re: Employers and Emplyment Agencies for Marketing & Communications

marCom is not an issue at all, but to work in an (swiss) agency is one.
there is leo burnett as a big international agency branch of which i could think
of to serve international clients. but if they need a consultant, if she is a fit for
said clients is way too unpredictable. she shall aim for an international
company, ideally an industry that is in her portfolio, clients of the same kind of industry she has worked for
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I wouldn't be surprised if it does take that long to be honest. She will proceed with a positive mindset, prepare for the worst but hope for the best. We don't have any major financial concerns and she has a number of other things to keep her mid active so no major pressure, but admittedly after finding a place to live, that will be the priority.

She is researching the job market, tailoring her applications and will start applying for positions imminently. Hopefully she makes some good progress.

Thanks again for the responses.
Wishing her luck and would love to know how she progresses - I'm in the same field here in London, EU but no other language than English, hoping to find a role in Basel. One can only try!
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Re: Employers and Emplyment Agencies for Marketing & Communications

What type of MarCom skills does she have?

I would suggest getting her on a concubine b permit asap as its easy to change to a working one and will mean she can put B permit holder on her application removing the hassle for potential HR people

As mentioned above the process could potentially take a long time and lots and lots of applications with virtually no feedback - Don't let it get you down thats the way it is here.

Hook up a email search on Jobs.ch and just get sending.

Alot of Marketing depts are mainly Swiss staffed so some movement towards learning the language will make things easier.
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What type of MarCom skills does she have?

I would suggest getting her on a concubine b permit asap as its easy to change to a working one and will mean she can put B permit holder on her application removing the hassle for potential HR people

As mentioned above the process could potentially take a long time and lots and lots of applications with virtually no feedback - Don't let it get you down thats the way it is here.

Hook up a email search on Jobs.ch and just get sending.

Alot of Marketing depts are mainly Swiss staffed so some movement towards learning the language will make things easier.
She has a range of experience; primarily web, e-mail and direct mail communications within chemical distribution, fundraising and retail sectors. She has around seven years good experience with appropriate qualifications.

Patience and determination seems to be the recurring message here. The opportunity for us to experience life in Switzerland at the moment will be worth the risk of her not finding work. Fortunately, we should be comfortable whether she does or doesn't. Longer term, it probably wouldn't be sustainable. Though we can cross that when we come to it.
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Wishing her luck and would love to know how she progresses - I'm in the same field here in London, EU but no other language than English, hoping to find a role in Basel. One can only try!
I will update the thread accordingly. We are moving for my job, so she is throwing caution to the wind involuntarily. We'll see how she gets on.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Re: Employers and Emplyment Agencies for Marketing & Communications

I would avoid focusing on DM skills as that's all pretty much outsourced and refocus the CV to Digital Marketing aspects. Assess a potential companies weakness in those areas and tailor application to show strengths at addressing those.

As there are roughly 200-300 applications per role in central Zurich, consider further afield. Long commutes are fairly normal here and public transport good. As for Chemicals, DOW chemicals is located in Horgen so check them out. Also use the time to training while job hunting.. Agile Marketing or Lean Brand or some other industry skills from a good body and also German - Being able to write a short email in good enough German to the HR contact even if the rest of your application docs are in English helps.

Also the Swiss are very peculiar abut application dossiers, They should include at the very least a cover letter, CV, reference letters from previous employers, copies of all qualifications and certifications, a photo, and scan of permit.
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