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Old 28.11.2015, 21:25
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Question about etiquette

Hello fellow EFers.

The company I am about to start working for in Switzerland, will train me for something like 2 months and then I'll actually start working. Pretty common practice.

My question is the following: Let's say that 3-4 months down the road, I get another job proposal with 2x or 3x the salary.

Is it OK to leave my first employer for the more lucrative one?

I personally feel that I should not leave.
I mean, It would be my first job in Switzerland, they'll train me, somehow I don't feel like hunting them dry like this.

What's your -Swiss- opinion on this?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 28.11.2015, 21:26
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This is a very small country. Word gets round.
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Old 28.11.2015, 21:31
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This is a very small country. Word gets round.
That is exactly what I am saying.
I'd much rather prefer to make a good name of myself for the long run, than get more money short-term and ruin my reputation.
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Give them 1 year- then you can go without remorse, I'd say.
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TBH unless you were working as an intern on a very low salary I'd be amazed if you were offered a job with 2x or 3x the salary after only working for 3-4 months.
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My question is the following: Let's say that 3-4 months down the road, I get another job proposal with 2x or 3x the salary.

Is it OK to leave my first employer for the more lucrative one?
That's a bit like winning the lottery. Of course you can leave - but it will not happen.

Think also about the other scenario: if you don't perform well, your employer can let you go with a week notice in your probation period.
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Re: Question about etiquette

Hi BChris,

There's one valuable lesson I've learn throughout my working career is that looking after number one at all times, and loyalty to employers will not help you at all and does not count for anything in the future.

Ask yourself one question. Do you think your manager will give a damn about you if he was decreed to cut workforce. Trust me, your loyalty won't count for anything.

I'm not saying this from personal experience, but this is what I've learnt from looking at the people that I've worked with. Loyalty to employers is misguided and is a blind faith and you owe it to yourself and your family to put yourself first.

You don't have to feel bad taking this stance as this is purely business between two parties and employers don't own you and both parties are free to terminate the contract.
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Re: Question about etiquette

Switzerland is so small, I had to work with ex colleagues lots of times including some from the UK! Be professional above all.

P.S It is even easy to find you from what you post here, your future boss could easily be reading this right now.
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Old 29.11.2015, 00:43
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Switzerland is so small, I had to work with ex colleagues lots of times including some from the UK! Be professional above all.

P.S It is even easy to find you from what you post here, your future boss could easily be reading this right now.
I guess it is possible.

Anyway, this is just a hypothetical scenario.
There are millions of those unfolding in my head as the due date approaches...
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Re: Question about etiquette

If you stay long enough at your new place, any bad word about you will eventually be out of date by the time you look for a new job. However, jumping ship on a regular basis is likely to be bad for your career.

When I was an employee, I was exactly as loyal to my employer as they were to me. Most employers will drop you in a heartbeat if they need to. If they want to ensure you stay then they either need some training clawback, have a longer notice period, or some other inducement (like paying you a decent wage or something to offset a low wage - or inducing feelings of guilt and obligation) to stop you from looking for other work.

My experience is that as soon as staff start looking around, the employer needs to start planning for a replacement. The trick is to keep the employee just happy enough that they don't look.
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