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From Norway to Switzerland- Job in the same company vs applying in other companies

Dear all,

This form has been helpful for me in many ways....
this is actually first time I am posting on this forum…

Now about myself:
  • Coming from non-EU country
  • Last five years living and working in Norway (holding permanent work and residence permit)
  • Working as project manager-hydropower
  • Master degree in mechanical engineering
  • Working in multinational company, one of the leaders in electro mechanical equipment for hydro power plant, company has head quarter in Austria, but with offices worldwide
  • Totally 15+ years of professional experience in hydropower sector (different geographical regions, on both sides of the table, client and contractor side,..)


At the moment, I can identify myself as a "passive candidate" who is not necessarily looking for a job but who is interested in the moving in Switzerland (because of both private and professional reasons, but more private than professional).

Her are my questions:


1. How to get the job within the same company?


My company has offices at three different locations in Switzerland
At the moment there are no open positions (advertised online and on our internal job boards)?
What is the best way to get the job in the same company? How to start? Chat with people from our Swiss offices to determine if there are any openings that can arise in the future? Ask my current boss to support me?

2. Where to apply for the other job openings in other companies from my sector?


I am checking regularly several job sites in Switzerland (jobs.ch, jobrapido.ch, jobsuchemaschine schweiz, …) but as I can see there is shortage of positions in my sector (hydropower). At the moment I didn’t send any application yet.
I am also checking career pages in different companies which can maybe need people of my profile (power utility companies like Axpo, Alpiq, Repower,….. Equipment manufacturers like Alstom/GE, … Consulting companies like AF Consult,..)

Are there any other tips where to search? Maybe recruiting agencies specialized in this field?

3. Apply for the job in another one sector? In which sector my skills are transferable?
4. Use personal connections from other companies (suppliers of different systems for power plants)?I have several personal (operational) connections in Switzerland. Any tips how to approach them?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for long post and Thanks in advance
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Old 22.08.2016, 16:53
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Re: From Norway to Switzerland- Job in the same company vs applying in other companie

I'm a bit irritated. Don't you think that your question 1) can be best answered by yourself, along with question 3)? You know more about your own company and its internal processes than anyone here (or so I would hope), and I would assume that after 15 years, you also know your own job, your industry, your competitors, related industries and subsequently related jobs much better than any commentor in this forum.

Same goes for connections, really. You've worked in the field for many years, how come you don't know how to approach them? Depending on the relationship you have with your Swiss colleagues, clients, whatever, just reach out to them and explain your situation. Don't expect too much from any network though; you can know one person and just get lucky because they happen to have something available, or know 500 who have no say in anything and nothing to offer ever.

Lastly, as a non-EU, you need a company to sponsor your work permit. The rules for non-EU hires are quite strict, though I would venture a guess and say that given your specialization and experience, that is probably not your biggest problem. Granted I know nothing about your field, but it doesn't sound like something where there's easily thousands of people freely available, like in other areas.

The easiest is a company transfer, always. Minimum effort for you, maximum effort for the company. Non-EU hiring rules still apply though, but they may be a bit more "generous", probably, depending on the employer.

If you look outside, be aware Switzerland has a somewhat slow labor market and it's quite normal for people to look for a new job for 6-12 months, or even more in very specialized fields like yours seem to be.
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Old 22.08.2016, 18:48
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At the moment there are no open positions (advertised online and on our internal job boards). What is the best way to get the job in the same company? How to start? Chat with people from our Swiss offices to determine if there are any openings that can arise in the future? Ask my current boss to support me?
I know zilch about your company or industry, but speaking from personal experience:
  • Having your current boss' support in an intercompany transfer is essential. Unless there is a deep dislike between your current and future bosses (or other professional/personal reasons), they won't stomp on each other's feet. Ergo, if your boss disagrees, your potential intercompany transfer is an uphill battle. Not saying it's impossible, but a harder fight.
  • Don't be deterred by the lack of (internal or external) job openings. Per the prior point, once secured your boss' support, reach out to your Swiss colleagues directly. If you have secured your boss' support, explicitly say so in the communication and cc your boss. That puts your Swiss colleagues at ease and better disposed to consider the transfer (i.e. they already know your boss is OK).
  • Tied to the prior point, the fact that there is no job opening does not necessarily mean there is no need. A job opening is an immediate need, however, it might be the case that your Swiss colleagues had not thought about receiving an intercompany transfer, and you are the person who was able to anticipate their need. Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!! Worst case scenario they don't need anybody, and so you make other plans.
  • Nobody is going to fight for you and nobody is going to promote your own interests better than yourself - express your interest, follow up, let it be known that you are interested in moving. As you stated, personal reasons are a big driver of your move - if things don't change, it is natural that you will continue to be driven by the desire to move. A company that treasures its employee will think twice before letting a valuable person go, trying to find arrangements and accommodations.

Good luck!
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Dear all,

This form has been helpful for me in many ways....
this is actually first time I am posting on this forum…

Now about myself:
  • Coming from non-EU country
  • Last five years living and working in Norway (holding permanent work and residence permit)
  • Working as project manager-hydropower
  • Master degree in mechanical engineering
  • Working in multinational company, one of the leaders in electro mechanical equipment for hydro power plant, company has head quarter in Austria, but with offices worldwide
  • Totally 15+ years of professional experience in hydropower sector (different geographical regions, on both sides of the table, client and contractor side,..)


At the moment, I can identify myself as a "passive candidate" who is not necessarily looking for a job but who is interested in the moving in Switzerland (because of both private and professional reasons, but more private than professional).

Her are my questions:


1. How to get the job within the same company?


My company has offices at three different locations in Switzerland
At the moment there are no open positions (advertised online and on our internal job boards)?
What is the best way to get the job in the same company? How to start? Chat with people from our Swiss offices to determine if there are any openings that can arise in the future? Ask my current boss to support me?

2. Where to apply for the other job openings in other companies from my sector?


I am checking regularly several job sites in Switzerland (jobs.ch, jobrapido.ch, jobsuchemaschine schweiz, …) but as I can see there is shortage of positions in my sector (hydropower). At the moment I didn’t send any application yet.
I am also checking career pages in different companies which can maybe need people of my profile (power utility companies like Axpo, Alpiq, Repower,….. Equipment manufacturers like Alstom/GE, … Consulting companies like AF Consult,..)

Are there any other tips where to search? Maybe recruiting agencies specialized in this field?

3. Apply for the job in another one sector? In which sector my skills are transferable?
4. Use personal connections from other companies (suppliers of different systems for power plants)?I have several personal (operational) connections in Switzerland. Any tips how to approach them?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for long post and Thanks in advance
If you can't figure out the answer to Question 1 yourself after working at the company for 5 years, then I think you may struggle either way.
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