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After 8 years with the same company I quit my job last year because I was in a tight spot in the organigramme after a major reorganisation. This company was the reason I transferred to Zurich from Sydney in 2010.

During the last year I have tried vehemently to secure a new position in marketing with no success. Possible reasons could be 1) my age and cost, 2) English only speaker, 3) limited other fashion related companies in ZH.
Not wanting to put too fine a point on it you've been sitting on your laurels for eight years. The days of simply doing your primary degree or qualification then happily settling into a job for life or going to job to job without problems are gone. They've been gone a long time.

It's been the case that if you want to remain attractive in the job market, you need to continue building up your CV; get additional qualifications, build up your profile, land projects that you can cite. You appear to have done nothing in that time, just coasted along and now have a stale CV. Learning to speak German would have been the most basic thing to do in eight years and would have already increased your chances of finding something else substantially had you done so.

Unfortunately your only option is to play catch-up on the career development you've let slide for the last eight years - go to school for further qualifications, build up an online profile, get involved in projects (even voluntary, look up charities online and send in your CV on spec) actively - "networked where I could" won't cut it, you really have to get yourself out there - and learn German. It can be done in two to three years if you go all out to do so, but it'll be a tough grind.
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To add the the fun, due to the fact I met someone and had a baby here in 2012, I also have the limitation that I am legally bound to stay in ZH to ensure my other joint parent has adequate access post separation last year. No we are not married, but Swiss law timed a large pendulum on mothers freedom of movement in July 2014 in favour of the father.
If the father has no wish to be involved, I'd imagine that you'll be able to come to a private agreement with him that would allow you to leave the country.

If he does or is involved, then proper order that he's no longer treated as a resource under law.
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Ouch- I was going to say something similar but was trying to find the words to say it a bit less abruptly. But I'm afraid, yes - I just don't get this...
in order to be able to work abroad I had to work very hard at learning the language- until I could a) do an Honours Degree in a UK University, and then quickly climb the steps to senior level. Not easy- hard work - but I don't get why you didn't realise that would be essential for progress here.
That doesn't really apply in Zurich. Many many expats I know working here are a walking shambles when it comes to the local lingo. They can just about bumble their way through ordering a coffee or a beer yet somehow manage to hold a decent position within an international company.

It also amazes me that people with zero language knowledge manage to navigate their way through buying big stuff like cars and houses.

You can't compare it with a foreigner working in the UK where you are pretty much stuffed if you can't speak English. Here it's a different set of circumstances.
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Old 03.11.2016, 11:41
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but I don't get why you didn't realise that would be essential for progress here.
But many if not most people never really bother... Not in the cities anyway, esp. in Zurich...

Edit, Sandgrounder had the same thought.
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Old 03.11.2016, 12:02
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Well, no idea what you do exactly, but I read Marketing and Fashion and it's quite obvious that Switzerland doesn't have a huge number of opportunities in those areas.

You might want to look for sort-of related industries and attempt a change. Maybe you've done so already, but if you have, it's not clear from your post.
In addition to the Ticino-based clothing and accessories fashion industry, there is also the fashion industry segment of watches and jewellry, mostly, but not only, in the French-speaking area. Furthermore, there are several sports clothing companies, e.g., Mammut, and even an undergarment company, Calida, in the country.
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That doesn't really apply in Zurich. Many many expats I know working here are a walking shambles when it comes to the local lingo. They can just about bumble their way through ordering a coffee or a beer yet somehow manage to hold a decent position within an international company.
I disagree. Sure, many expats can somehow manage to hold a decent position within an international company without any German, but the moment they no longer are holding down that decent position, they're immediately at a disadvantage because they have access to only a subset of jobs available and even in those jobs where German is not mandatory, it will be seen as an advantage. The good-old-days pre-2008 of being able to live and work in Switzerland without a word of German are not quite gone, but it's a lot harder to move jobs without it than it once was.
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The good-old-days pre-2008 of being able to live and work in Switzerland without a word of German are not quite gone, but it's a lot harder to move jobs without it than it once was.
Sure but usually they only realize that when they're already in deep sh* And then it's too late and they blame "the country" instead of themselves for missing the chance and being unable to fix it.
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Old 03.11.2016, 13:16
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Re: Is my career over?

The quitting of the job may also have been due to the fact that one had to move out of the family home and unable to easily commute. Couple that with crazy school schedules without available after-school care, plus emotional turmoil, and then judge how easy it is to find a job.

Can we all pool our resources together and address the fact that this is a single mom looking for some sort of support? Nowhere did she say that she's interested in taking advantage of anything or anybody.

OP, some answers are pretty good. Chin up, and like in life (or any forum), listen to the good, discard the bad.

Speaking of the undergarment industry, there is also Zimmerli and Hanro.
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It was completely unwise, reckless even (unless you were suffering from extreme and debilitating emotional stress), to quit a stable job in those circumstances without first having something else lined up.
Yes I had a burn out and went to a nice clinic for 8 weeks, didn't see it coming. So being unwise wasn't possible to prevent as a reflection.

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Sad to say, but yes, your career is over. Unfortunately it has been over for 8 years as you reported. So now enjoy the ride
This statement makes the most sense to me. Staying in a company for the wring reasons is career suicide.

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Of course your career in CH is over. You've been in ZH for 6+ years and you don't speak fluent German.
Yes sincerely, I should have tried to squeeze that in between managing a team of 10 as a Director at work, and becoming a mother for the first time at 42.

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This statement makes the most sense to me. Staying in a company for the wring reasons is career suicide.
It is if you aren't proactive about it. Staying in the wrong company to keep yourself financially secure while you search around for a new opportunity is called responsibility and growth

I can say that because I beat myself up for months after chucking the towel in on a job without having somewhere to leap first.
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The quitting of the job may also have been due to the fact that one had to move out of the family home and unable to easily commute. Couple that with crazy school schedules without available after-school care, plus emotional turmoil, and then judge how easy it is to find a job.
Sure. But all she wrote was that she was unhappy with where she "found herself on an organigramm" after a restructuring. Everything you write is assumption and there's no indication any of that was a reason.

And even IF all your assumptions turn out to be correct, it's still not a good idea to throw in the towel and then see what's out there. Do it the other way around, everywhere in the world, but especially in a country that is known for not having the most dynamic labor market.

Though as said, too late now anyway.

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Can we all pool our resources together and address the fact that this is a single mom looking for some sort of support?
This too is okay, but you also have to stay realistic. Something tells me it won't be easy to find a job as an English-only speaker at Zimmerli and Hanro and possibly even at Calida and Mammut. Being a single mother of a 4-year old on top of that only makes it more difficult. Sorry, this is not intended to be nasty or negative, it's just pragmatism.

I continue to say that OP needs to broaden her search. By A LOT. Wich is why I'd be interested in understanding what "marketing" means, where she has looked for jobs so far, whether she even had any interviews at all or not etc. If she's not even invited for any conversations, well then she desperately needs to change her course of action. If she is but can't secure a job, there may well be another issue too.
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Who is caring for your child? Does your ex have no responsibility for you as you must legally remain here? Or maybe as it is Swiss law that dictates you remain here they should assist you.
I understand you are concerned about your career but hopefully you do not have to be concerned about money.
I had a situation where I was not allowed to leave the country after separation but my ex went sick from work so he did not have to properly support me or his children. I was offered no help, was even told I would not have been left in that state by the court if we couldnt afford to live so I ended up working 3 part time jobs to keep body and soul together. It is possible to find yourself in a surreal catch 22 situation.
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Not wanting to put too fine a point on it you've been sitting on your laurels for eight years. The days of simply doing your primary degree or qualification then happily settling into a job for life or going to job to job without problems are gone. They've been gone a long time.

It's been the case that if you want to remain attractive in the job market, you need to continue building up your CV; get additional qualifications, build up your profile, land projects that you can cite. You appear to have done nothing in that time, just coasted along and now have a stale CV. Learning to speak German would have been the most basic thing to do in eight years and would have already increased your chances of finding something else substantially had you done so.

Unfortunately your only option is to play catch-up on the career development you've let slide for the last eight years - go to school for further qualifications, build up an online profile, get involved in projects (even voluntary, look up charities online and send in your CV on spec) actively - "networked where I could" won't cut it, you really have to get yourself out there - and learn German. It can be done in two to three years if you go all out to do so, but it'll be a tough grind.

Agree, and this a key point to discuss... is that not long ago Swiss HQ's were bringing in expertise from other countries (because you didn't have it here), many of whom speak only English. However, if you are a Head of or a Director thrown into major organisational change, as many orgs are today, it can be a distraction and suck the personal time available to remain mindful that your own career is on track. I am also very impressed by people who can learn a language in 11 days, but Im not convinced they can write a persuasive press release.

Personally speaking in my very specific circumstance, when I met someone and had a child here, the original plan to work in Suisse as an expat for 3 years and then go back to London or Sydney did not apply anymore. Different set of rules then based on the needs of the child.

Back to my previous point, controversially I believe that discrimination now exists in the CH marketplace because A) It is now smaller (how much statistically is debatable), B) government clamp downs on work permits to curb immigration further to community demand has filtered through into the HR systems of major companies in the form of discrimination, and some vacancies are remaining open until bilingual candidates (pref Suisse) are found in the bid to keep the harmony in the workplace. In a nutshell you convinced me to come here, but you never wanted me to get a life.

If the father has no wish to be involved, I'd imagine that you'll be able to come to a private agreement with him that would allow you to leave the country.

No he will not allow our child to leave the country, but I can leave.

If he does or is involved, then proper order that he's no longer treated as a resource under law.
That is the status.

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Yes I had a burn out and went to a nice clinic for 8 weeks, didn't see it coming. So being unwise wasn't possible to prevent as a reflection.
That is very different to saying you resigned because of a restructuring that caused you to be put in an area with less opportunities for promotion. Did you speak to your work about taking on a less challenging role, or were they not interested in reaching any compromises? You worked with them for 8 years, that's a long time, so I would be surprised if they were so unaccomodating.

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Yes sincerely, I should have tried to squeeze that in between managing a team of 10 as a Director at work, and becoming a mother for the first time at 42.
Managing a team of 10 is not excuse for not learning at least some level of German in 6 or so years. Everyone who works and learns German is busy, but they make time for it nonetheless. Just be honest and say it wasn't a priority for you as everyone spoke English with you at work. Your last 1.5 years of unemployment have also provided ample opportunity to get going with it.
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That is very different to saying you resigned because of a restructuring that caused you to be put in an area with less opportunities for promotion. Did you speak to your work about taking on a less challenging role, or were they not interested in reaching any compromises? You worked with them for 8 years, that's a long time, so I would be surprised if they were so unaccomodating.

They said that they wanted to demote me but when i asked what to, they could not come up with a job. I think my boss was scared because I got run down and took the bad performance route, even though I was promoted 5 months earlier.


Managing a team of 10 is not excuse for not learning at least some level of German in 6 or so years. Everyone who works and learns German is busy, but they make time for it nonetheless. Just be honest and say it wasn't a priority for you as everyone spoke English with you at work. Your last 1.5 years of unemployment have also provided ample opportunity to get going with it.
I have been unemployed for one year, and I have taken this tile to complete a course. Fluency of course eludes me at this stage.
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I have been unemployed for one year, and I have taken this tile to complete a course. Fluency of course eludes me at this stage.
No one said you have to be 'fluent', I'm certainly not either after 8 years here, but good on you for finally getting started.
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Re: Is my career over?

So I'm asking for the third time now:
  • What is it you do exactly?
  • What companies have you applied to and what type of jobs?
  • Are you getting interviews at all or not?
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I am also very impressed by people who can learn a language in 11 days, but Im not convinced they can write a persuasive press release.
No, I wouldn't either, but they would be able to sit into German speaking meetings. Read German documents. Have better access to the local market. Your employer wouldn't need to switch to English every time you're in the room, just because you're the only one who can't speak German.

It doesn't mean you can't do your job just because you don't speak German, but it does mean that when picking a CV from a pile of 100, yours lacks that extra edge.

And fluency, while desirable, is not the be-all-and-end-all. Being at A2 level is already better than nothing and by B1 or B2 level you're close enough to fluent as far as many employers are concerned if your other skills and experience is attractive enough.
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Back to my previous point, controversially I believe that discrimination now exists in the CH marketplace because A) It is now smaller (how much statistically is debatable), B) government clamp downs on work permits to curb immigration further to community demand has filtered through into the HR systems of major companies in the form of discrimination, and some vacancies are remaining open until bilingual candidates (pref Suisse) are found in the bid to keep the harmony in the workplace. In a nutshell you convinced me to come here, but you never wanted me to get a life.
The market is a lot leaner since 2008, yes. It is everywhere. And the company convinced you to come to Switzerland but didn't give a crap otherwise (as long as you kept doing your job, yes. What exactly were you expecting?

TBH, that's just Capitalism. Would be the same if you had remained in Australia. You'd still have to take time to keep your career current or become obsolete.
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I suggested that if he wants nothing to do with the child then you might be able to come to a private agreement, your response doesn't really address that, although if he does want the child to remain, he does appear to want to be in the child's life.

If so, then I'm not sure why the fact that his rights as a parent or your child's rights to have a relationship with that parent should be blamed for anything, which is what you seemed to imply by complaining about the change in law in your first post.
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Re: Is my career over?

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About courage:
First of all, well done for asking for opinions and risking criticism.

About learning German:
I agree with everyone who writes that your C.V. will be worth more, in any pile of applications, if you have a good command of German. I think you know that, and fair enough, you have now spent some of the last year doing a German course. Good. I’d like to encourage you to plod on, push forward, to keep learning, to practice your vocab each time you take a bus or sit in a waiting-room, to speak German to everyone you meet casually in everyday situations, as well as so to any German-speaker in your real life who will let you battle forward to improve.

About your username:
you wanna go home. As I understand it, you cannot take your child with you. Some parents do go so far as to leave the country and leave their child behind. I think one would have to be very desperate to take such a step. If you know that, for you, you would not choose to leave your child, then one way or another you will have to get your head – and more importantly your heart – around the fact that you will NOT be going home.
More than once I have seen immigrants experiencing a sudden boost once they have truly internalised the fact that they are NOT going home. I’ve seen it work like a switch, as clear as an on/off switch, enabling someone to mobilise all their resources to work on finally making Switzerland home. This includes language skills, friendships, work, enjoyment of free-time, etc.

About branching out, as others have suggested, to other fields of work:
One approach I heard to finding a different kind work is to go all the way back to primary school. Seriously. Think about whatever skills you learned and LIKED and were good at, or good enough at. Review your childhood, youth, all the clubs and societies, churches, youth groups, guides and scouts, hobbies, all the skills, all the education, extra-mural activities, part-time jobs, and try re-writing these as if you were going to put them in an adult C.V. Of course, in a real C.V. no-one is interested in these things, not a jot, but I’m talking about an imaginative exercise to remind yourself what you can do, and particularly how you might be able to re-invent yourself.
The second part of this exercise is to do the same with all your studies and professional work experience, but to forbid yourself from using the proper vocabulary and abbreviations for your qualifications and roles. This, too, in an imaginative exercise, like the quiz show when you have to describe a can-opener to someone who must guess what you’re talking about, and you’re not allowed to say words like: can, open, cut, lid, metal, etc.
The point is to comb through EVERYthing you have ever done, to find out everything you could bring to a job. And that way, to teach yourself to see other kinds of work which might be in your range.
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Re: Is my career over?

If you are convinced that employment here is not possible, what about opportunities in other countries?

A friend was in a similar situation - a stay at home mum with children until divorce meant she had to go back to work. But all those years out employment meant she could not find a job in Switzerland. She found a good job abroad, but the ex would not agree to her leaving the country with the children.

Shared responsibility means that the parents need to find a way to work together for the best interests of the children, including being able to support the children, which often means compromises. It wasn't always easy, but these two found a way to split child raising responsibilities.

Her job abroad was project based, allowing her to work some of the time from home in Switzerland and some of the time at the company site abroad. When she needed to travel, the ex took care of the children. It meant that she and the ex had to live in the same town so that the children's schooling was not disrupted. But it mostly worked.

If you think that your opportunities would be greater abroad, could you see you and your ex working out a similar arrangement? Would a 'work here/work there' arrangement be possible given what you do?

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So I'm asking for the third time now:
  • What is it you do exactly?
  • What companies have you applied to and what type of jobs?
  • Are you getting interviews at all or not?
Why the arrogance?
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