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Re: Contract Rates in Zurich

I agree completely with the second half of your post, though I don't see Brexit will have noticeable effect.
The grind on IT has been in place for a long time now.
I recently found out 'our' nearshore center won't provide office space for their contraters/service providers and so the have to work from home.
So another cost to be absorbed by the staff. Ok, this situation works for some people, but not all.
It appears the golden age of contracting is over, glad I went permie.
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You'll have to explain that theory a bit more.
...it's no longer theory, it is already happening right now, see jobserve.com:


- MDM Consultant for CHF 43/hour
- Project Manager Cloud SaaS for EUR 400/day = CHF 428/day
- Informatica PIM Architect for EUR 350/day = CHF 375/day
- Windows Exchange Administrator CHF 450/day
- Middle Office Specialist CHF 350/day


These are ads for jobs in Zurich/Geneva/Basel and not for jobs in Krakow!
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... I am afraid that the Brexit will wash down IT contractors from the island en masse so that the rate will go downhill like never seen before.
Might be tricky though if they've not got EU freedom of movement...
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...it's no longer theory, it is already happening right now, see jobserve.com:


- MDM Consultant for CHF 43/hour
- Project Manager Cloud SaaS for EUR 400/day = CHF 428/day
- Informatica PIM Architect for EUR 350/day = CHF 375/day
- Windows Exchange Administrator CHF 450/day
- Middle Office Specialist CHF 350/day


These are ads for jobs in Zurich/Geneva/Basel and not for jobs in Krakow!
But Brexit hasn't happened yet.
The above is a result of IT becoming a commodity and the influx of outsourcing partners, and as you point out, many well educated Eastern Europeans in the market.
Rates can only go down.
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But Brexit hasn't happened yet.
The above is a result of IT becoming a commodity and the influx of outsourcing partners, and as you point out, many well educated Eastern Europeans in the market.
Rates can only go down.
Brexit hasn't happened yet ? and on which planet do you live ?
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Might be tricky though if they've not got EU freedom of movement...
The British government will negotiate a free movement of persons agreement with the Gnomes of Zürich and this will likely happen because the "City" and "Zürich" have a "good relationship".
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Old 04.04.2017, 22:26
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Brexit hasn't happened yet ? and on which planet do you live ?
Brexit hasn't happened. The triggering of Article 50 means the process of negotiating Brexit has begun. But Britain is still part of the EU and will be for a while yet.
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The British government will negotiate a free movement of persons agreement with the Gnomes of Zürich and this will likely happen because the "City" and "Zürich" have a "good relationship".
They won't. Because Switzerland is part of the Schengen treaty, which means CH cannot single handedly negotiate anything on free movement of UK people. And while I see what's in it for the UK do I fail to see why CH should care... if anything will Brexit boost Swiss banking vs UK banking...
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I agree completely with the second half of your post, though I don't see Brexit will have noticeable effect.
The grind on IT has been in place for a long time now.
I recently found out 'our' nearshore center won't provide office space for their contraters/service providers and so the have to work from home.
So another cost to be absorbed by the staff. Ok, this situation works for some people, but not all.
It appears the golden age of contracting is over, glad I went permie.
It's not one size fits all. I have a mate who has been on a contract for a bank for the last thirty years and another who has been head of IT for a global business for 9.
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Re: Contract Rates in Zurich

Also you need to be careful when you look for gross rates or all inclusive rate.

I was offered today a rate of 750 all inclusive rate and need to use an umbrella company.

Since i never used a contract i need to check better what this means financially. I have been here for 9 years on permanent contract.

I have found this site useful:

http://jobsli.ch/contract-payslip-explained/
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