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Old 29.11.2016, 11:16
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Many of you correctly state that the exit interview is meaningless. It is.

From my 20+ years of corporate experience, nothing substantial has ever changed as a result of an exit interview. You are classified in a category for reasons to leave, and once a year, that pareto is flashed up at some meeting for 15 seconds.

Similarly, there is nothing for you to gain from the exit interview. Although it may feel good to lash out, demonstrate your superiority, belittle the interviewer, etc., it will be only fleeting and will never provide any upside. It is quite immature actually.

No company ever has said after the exit interview, "why that person has more honest passion than I thought. Lets bring him back." Ever.

So how to play your hand?

1: Be childish. Tell them how F'd up they are and go down in a blaze of glory.
RESULT:
1. You feel good for about 10 minutes.
2. Possible no effect on future job search and professional reputation
3. Possible, NEGATIVE EFFECT on future job search and professional reputation. People talk. Its a small world. The bigger impact you make (throwing chairs, swearing, et al, the higher probability of #3)


2. Be a poker player. Don't reveal your hand. Fold and muck your cards.
RESULT:
1. You have played your hand the way you wanted
2. Possible no effect on future job search and professional reputation
3. Possible, POSITIVE EFFECT on future job search and professional reputation. People talk. Its a small world. "Hey, did you ever know so and so?"
Even a neutral comment can be construed later on as "no danger" sign by a potential new employer.

You can work out the probability tree and which way you should go from here.


Good luck.


The third option is that you tell them honestly, calmly and dispassionately the failings that made working there less than pleasant.

Probably they'll make a note, file it and forget about it but if there is an ounce of professionalism about them and they want to take the business forward then they may take it on board and think twice about how they treat their employees.

Haemorrhaging employees is costly for a firm in recruitment costs as well as lost productivity whilst bringing the new employee up to speed.
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Old 29.11.2016, 11:26
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The third option is that you tell them honestly, calmly and dispassionately the failings that made working there less than pleasant.

Probably they'll make a note, file it and forget about it but if there is an ounce of professionalism about them and they want to take the business forward then they may take it on board and think twice about how they treat their employees.

Haemorrhaging employees is costly for a firm in recruitment costs as well as lost productivity whilst bringing the new employee up to speed.
While all that you say is correct, this guy is not open for my opinion on anything so I will be saying as little as possible. The interview is tomorrow afternoon so I will post an update afterwards.
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Old 29.11.2016, 11:29
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While all that you say is correct, this guy is not open for my opinion on anything so I will be saying as little as possible. The interview is tomorrow afternoon so I will post an update afterwards.
Wear a Go Pro, we'd love to see this livestream.
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While all that you say is correct, this guy is not open for my opinion on anything so I will be saying as little as possible. The interview is tomorrow afternoon so I will post an update afterwards.
Tough as it might be at the moment, it sounds like you are better off out of there.

I've had a couple of shite jobs and it certainly qualifies you to sniff out similar situations before you sign on the dotted line.
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Old 29.11.2016, 13:54
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The interview is tomorrow afternoon so I will post an update afterwards.
Ultimately, this is what we want to know!

Perhaps you could try to find a way to incorporate something completely out of context, just for fun. May I suggest you somehow manage to mention or chat about Martin Luther King, or birdwatching, or use the word misanthrope... whether it has relevance or not, and let us know how it went.....
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Old 29.11.2016, 14:42
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Re: Exit Interviews

Don't forget to bring your bingo card. Fill it out while your boss is talking.



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Re: Exit Interviews

This is more commonly known as Bull**** Bingo.
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Re: Exit Interviews

I'm inclined to say the truth, in case I ever need to have an historical record to rely on.
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Old 30.11.2016, 16:57
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I'm inclined to say the truth, in case I ever need to have an historical record to rely on.
Whilst I'm inclined to agree with you......I have no recollection of that. Sir.
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Re: Exit Interviews

So how did it go?
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Old 01.12.2016, 11:20
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Re: Exit Interviews

Well, much ado about nothing really. It went ok, just lasted a few minutes with not much said on either side. I got my work certificate which is actually not so bad (quite good if you take it on face value). Obviously I didn't do anything "zur vollsten zufriedenheit" but still. My boss did say that he won't do anything to stand in my way and that I can use his name as a reference if I need to. Bizarrely he felt the need to give me some advice about my future career at which I just nodded and said nothing.

While looking for a new job is a daunting task, I am just so relieved to be out of that place.

Thanks to everyone for all your advice.
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Re: Exit Interviews

Do get someone to go over your reference letter. It might not look that bad as you say to you, but might have a subliminal "DO NOT EMPLOY" message that can only be deciphered by an HR professional.

I hope they didn't put that you didn't do things "zur vollsten zufriedenheit" in the reference letter!
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Re: Exit Interviews

Just read this hilarious article about a guy who was brutally honest in his exit interview questionnaire and shared it with his 2000-plus fellow employees...

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20...etirement.html
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Just read this hilarious article about a guy who was brutally honest in his exit interview questionnaire and shared it with his 2000-plus fellow employees...

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20...etirement.html
His comments are pretty much relevant to every job I have every had
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I've been summoned to one. I don't see the point:

"So, tell us why you're leaving?"

"Um, 'cos you fired me and replaced me with a cheaper, less experienced member of staff. Next question?"

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Re: Exit Interviews

In formal terms, the "exit interview" seems to me to be an empty exercise.

However, this is a small country, with regions yet smaller because of the language divides, and in the yet smaller sub-cultures related to each profession, no matter in which field one works, one keeps meeting up with the same people, over and over again, in some other work context.

Therefore one of the purposes of the Exit Interview can be (for the employer who may later need to recruit again, and also for the employee) to salvage some sort of polite human bond which may lead to useful contact for a future job. In case there is any further job to be had, later, it is best to leave without burning bridges. For the same reason, it is well worth it to go and shake each collegue's hand, to say goodbye, rather than just drooping one's shoulders and shuffling out.

You have my sympathy. And I hope you find another job soon (or at least after a proper break).
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Old 20.06.2017, 21:38
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Just read this hilarious article about a guy who was brutally honest in his exit interview questionnaire and shared it with his 2000-plus fellow employees...

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20...etirement.html
This man, however, sent this mail right at the end of his career when he no longer needed job, ever, so he could happily risk sinking his chances of anyone ever wanting to hire him again.
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Old 20.06.2017, 21:55
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This man, however, sent this mail right at the end of his career when he no longer needed job, ever, so he could happily risk sinking his chances of anyone ever wanting to hire him again.

What a tool bag he was. After 35 years at the same organisation, his parting contribution is a cowardly sweary rant about his employer.

In his exit interview, he wrote "They hire a lot of people who are dumb as rocks"

I suspect his departure will raise the intellectual bar.

Either way, I'm sure he'll be missed long after his 5 seconds of social media fame.
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I've been summoned to one. I don't see the point:

"So, tell us why you're leaving?"

"Um, 'cos you fired me and replaced me with a cheaper, less experienced member of staff. Next question?"


Wow, you really pissed them off, before, during and after !
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