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Old 24.01.2017, 21:55
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RAV registration question (timing)

Dear all,

My husband's company have given him a 6-month sabbatical due to long-term employment. Mine have not. However, we have decided we will take this opportunity to volunteer abroad, so I will leave my job.

My question is: do I need to register with my local RAV before leaving (or even as soon as I have given notice?) and let them know about our plans in advance? Or can I wait until we have returned to file the initial unemployment notice? (Basically, if I wait, will I forfeit access to the unemployment scheme?)

In either scenario, I believe I will be penalized for leaving my job and have to wait (3 months?) before any type of payment might begin (assuming I don't find a job straight away).

Lastly, is this a "rahmenfrist" type scenario where I need to ask for my eligibility time to be paused? (I keep seeing the term on here, but am still not sure exactly what it means.)

I am an American C-permit holder.

Thank you very much for any advice!
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Old 24.01.2017, 22:01
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Re: RAV registration question (timing)

It can't be paused.

You will lose it.

Tom
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Old 24.01.2017, 22:20
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It can't be paused.

You will lose it.

Tom
Hi Tom, would you please clarify? Do you mean if I leave voluntarily for 6 months that the time I am eligible for unemployment will drop from 2 years to 18 months? Thank you.
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Old 24.01.2017, 22:23
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Re: RAV registration question (timing)

You also need to be careful not to be out of the country for more than 6 months as your permit will become invalid. From the Foreign Nationals Act:

"Section 2: Expiry and Revocation of Permits

Art. 61 Expiry of permits

1 A permit expires:
a. on notice of departure abroad;
b. on the grant of a permit in another canton;
c. on the expiry of the term of validity of the permit;
d. on expulsion in terms of Article 68.2

If a foreign national leaves Switzerland without giving notice of departure, a short stay permit expires after three months, and a residence or permanent residence permit (expires) after six months."
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Old 24.01.2017, 22:24
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Hi Tom, would you please clarify? Do you mean if I leave voluntarily for 6 months that the time I am eligible for unemployment will drop from 2 years to 18 months? Thank you.
And the amount you will get monthly will be halved, with a three month delay on top.

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Hi Tom, would you please clarify? Do you mean if I leave voluntarily for 6 months that the time I am eligible for unemployment will drop from 2 years to 18 months? Thank you.
Your rahemnfrist starts when you become unemployed. Taking 6 months off will likely incur a further penalty in addition to you walking away from a job for no reason. Quite possible you won't get any payment at all....... The insurance is for people who loose their job, not for people that want to go away for 6 months.
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You also need to be careful not to be out of the country for more than 6 months as your permit will become invalid. From the Foreign Nationals Act:

"Section 2: Expiry and Revocation of Permits

Art. 61 Expiry of permits

1 A permit expires:
a. on notice of departure abroad;
b. on the grant of a permit in another canton;
c. on the expiry of the term of validity of the permit;
d. on expulsion in terms of Article 68.2

If a foreign national leaves Switzerland without giving notice of departure, a short stay permit expires after three months, and a residence or permanent residence permit (expires) after six months."
Thanks Medea. This is definitely something I was thinking/worrying about. We plan to be out of the country for 2-3 days under 6 months, so I am hoping it won't be an issue.

This is also related to me wanting to register with the RAV upon my return -- just so there are no questions or concerns. However, the last sentence make it sound like I might be able to give notice and pause the permit..?
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Old 24.01.2017, 22:41
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Your rahemnfrist starts when you become unemployed. Taking 6 months off will likely incur a further penalty in addition to you walking away from a job for no reason. Quite possible you won't get any payment at all....... The insurance is for people who loose their job, not for people that want to go away for 6 months.
This is totally fair and I will understand if I don't end up qualifying.
However, based on my situation, do you know if I need to register before leaving or if I can wait until I return? Thank you.
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Re: RAV registration question (timing)

The RAV control your job seeking. It is your unemployment insurance office that hold the financial power and make their decisions based on Swiss laws.

The RAV usually insist that you start looking for work as soon as you know you will be unemployed, if you don't do so, (as you know) you can be severely penalised.

I suggest you go to the RAV or your cantonal unemployment insurance office and ask them exactly what you can claim, and when.
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