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RAV Ramenfrist after a termination payment or temp work

I am pretty sure I will be made redundant soon as they are announcing a move of our company HQ out of Switzerland. Other people are getting severance payments and I suspect the same will happen to me. And others are getting offers of some temp work. I have two questions and could not find clear answers here or at the RAV.

1. If I get a payout at the end of employment, does this delay how long I need to wait before receiving benefit. Can this be months? Years?
2. If there is a delay (of say a year) does this then extend the Ramenfrist period? If not, and the waiting period is long, it would seem that people with high level roles that get payouts might be denied the benefit entirely.
3. If I accept a temp role with defined end, when does my Ramenfrist begin. Is it from the first day of unemployment from the fixed contract? Or the first day after the fixed term contract ends?

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Old 17.02.2017, 16:23
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Re: RAV Ramenfrist after a termination payment or temp work

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I am pretty sure I will be made redundant soon as they are announcing a move of our company HQ out of Switzerland. Other people are getting severance payments and I suspect the same will happen to me. And others are getting offers of some temp work. I have two questions and could not find clear answers here or at the RAV.

1. If I get a payout at the end of employment, does this delay how long I need to wait before receiving benefit. Can this be months? Years?
2. If there is a delay (of say a year) does this then extend the Ramenfrist period? If not, and the waiting period is long, it would seem that people with high level roles that get payouts might be denied the benefit entirely.
3. If I accept a temp role with defined end, when does my Ramenfrist begin. Is it from the first day of unemployment from the fixed contract? Or the first day after the fixed term contract ends?

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Whatever severence pay deal you get from your employer has no bearing on any unemployment benefit. If you've been keeping your nose clean and applying for a decent number of jobs since you received your notice you'll get your benefits same as anyone else.
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I am pretty sure I will be made redundant soon as they are announcing a move of our company HQ out of Switzerland. Other people are getting severance payments and I suspect the same will happen to me. And others are getting offers of some temp work. I have two questions and could not find clear answers here or at the RAV.

1. If I get a payout at the end of employment, does this delay how long I need to wait before receiving benefit. Can this be months? Years?
2. If there is a delay (of say a year) does this then extend the Ramenfrist period? If not, and the waiting period is long, it would seem that people with high level roles that get payouts might be denied the benefit entirely.
3. If I accept a temp role with defined end, when does my Ramenfrist begin. Is it from the first day of unemployment from the fixed contract? Or the first day after the fixed term contract ends?

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Assuming pay is similar there is no reason to open a rahmenfrist as your not unemployed. If pay is higher then your insurance payout may be higher in the future
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Re: RAV Ramenfrist after a termination payment or temp work

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I am pretty sure I will be made redundant soon as they are announcing a move of our company HQ out of Switzerland. Other people are getting severance payments and I suspect the same will happen to me. And others are getting offers of some temp work. I have two questions and could not find clear answers here or at the RAV.

1. If I get a payout at the end of employment, does this delay how long I need to wait before receiving benefit. Can this be months? Years?
2. If there is a delay (of say a year) does this then extend the Ramenfrist period? If not, and the waiting period is long, it would seem that people with high level roles that get payouts might be denied the benefit entirely.
3. If I accept a temp role with defined end, when does my Ramenfrist begin. Is it from the first day of unemployment from the fixed contract? Or the first day after the fixed term contract ends?

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I have investigated the subject a bit:
1- If you are getting less than 150'000 as payout money (it was around this level), you don't get any delays (5-20 days max). If you are getting more than that, depending on the amount that you get, you will get a delay up to 6 months - if I am not mistaken. However, if you put your payout into your 2nd pillar, then you don't get any delay.
2- The delay is as it is: a delay - it is not a penalty, so number of days will not be deducted. However, when you are leaving the company make sure that the letter that your company gives you states that "they fire you" not "mutual agreement" or "your resignation" etc. In mutual agreement / your resignation, you get up to 60 days of penalty, which will be deducted from your benefit days.
3- If you take a temp role ending with a fixed period, you need to contact the unemployment office for guidance. Normally it starts right away; however, they will ask you to apply for jobs as soon as you know that you will be unemployed. So if you take a job which is like 6 months, start applying today until the end of the contract to make sure you don't have any issues with Chomage.

I hope it helps.
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