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Full time job + part time job?

I am employed full time. Work 42 hours a week.
Can i work part time at nights or weekends for another company?
I don't see a reason why this would not be allowed because i want that myself (noone forces me).
Reason is simple - not paid enough on my full time job.
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Re: Full time job + part time job?

What does the contract say?

My contract specifically stipulates that I need the consent of my employer for this.

But then, I'm (probably) paid better.

I think with another job, I'd burn out faster than straw-fire....
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I am employed full time. Work 42 hours a week.
Can i work part time at nights or weekends for another company?
I don't see a reason why this would not be allowed because i want that myself (noone forces me).
Reason is simple - not paid enough on my full time job.
It depends on what your employment contract says and your work permit status.
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I am employed full time. Work 42 hours a week.
Can i work part time at nights or weekends for another company?
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Re: Full time job + part time job?

Despite Koblenz's enormous experience, his rather short answer is not strictly correct, as in order to be so categorical, you would need to see what is written in your existing contract.

Many employers retain the right to refuse you working elsewhere and the reasoning behind is partly non-competition with another company in similar business, but also to avoid you being to tired to do your main work properly.

In view you are not well paid, we can assume it is not a management position you hold, so you would be easily replaced and in Switzerland it is not difficult to sack somebody.

So to give a yes/no answer without seeing the clauses in your contract is just not possible.
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Re: Full time job + part time job?

It could be prohibited by the main employer's contract with the employee. This is, as you say, the first thing to check, if you want to play by the rules.

Nevertheless a prohibition does not mean to say that it is not physically possible for the OP to take on another job, for we all know that rules are there to be bent/broken. And it does go on.

If the contract does not prohibit a second job then there is no reason at all for the OP to take on as many jobs and extra hours as she/he can handle.

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Re: Full time job + part time job?

There's also a max number of hours per week (45-50 depending on industry), minimum consecutive free hours per day etc. The total of both your jobs has to conform to these regulations. So it's very possible to combine two or more part-time jobs legally, rare to be able to combine full-time with part-time unless the part-time job is very small.
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There's also a max number of hours per week (45-50 depending on industry), minimum consecutive free hours per day etc. The total of both your jobs has to conform to these regulations.
But not all industries/contracts have those limits. Also one employer doesn't always know about the existence of the other. The second employer could also be in a different industry.

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There's also a max number of hours per week (45-50 depending on industry), minimum consecutive free hours per day etc. The total of both your jobs has to conform to these regulations. So it's very possible to combine two or more part-time jobs legally, rare to be able to combine full-time with part-time unless the part-time job is very small.
Do you have a reference for this? I think it's only per job. IE your full time job can not ask you to work 60 hrs per week. Plus I also think this only applies to employees who clock. Management is SOL.
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Re: Full time job + part time job?

At my last job I had a colleague who was on a 90% contract and often had nights and weekends as it was shift work. She had a 60% job during the day in an airline office.
One of the employers knew about the other job, the other did not.
Total 150%.
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Do you have a reference for this? I think it's only per job. IE your full time job can not ask you to work 60 hrs per week. Plus I also think this only applies to employees who clock. Management is SOL.
Here for example (both in German, sorry):
https://www.beobachter.ch/arbeit/arb...s-viele-fragen

https://www.monster.ch/de/karrierebe...flichten-35385

So it's not the case that "you can only work 100%" as often heard - and as you say there are sectors / levels where some of these regs don't apply - but whatever employment regulations do apply, have to apply in total not just for each job separately.

@koblenz, nobody is saying you can't get away with it, especially if one or both employers are in the dark. I understood the OP's question to be what he can legally do though.
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"you can only work 100%" as often heard
"you can only work 100%" is nothing but a false rumour that is spread around unnecessarily as it is obviously wrong.

You can be a beneficiary of a 100% invalidity benefit yet still work let's say 30% and get paid for it for example without putting at risk the 100% replacement income you are receiving in benefits.

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Re: Full time job + part time job?

Thank you all VERY MUCH for answers and constructive discussion.

I was under impression that there is a global limit imposed by Swiss Law/Government which stipulates a maximum number of hours a person can work per week, regardless for how many employers.

Example: if i work 42h per week for my full time job that i could maybe only take additional 2-4 hours and by doing this hit the limit of max 46h and nothing above that is allowed.

While in reality i could work at least 1-2h more per work day and weekends at least 8, meaning i can easily do additional 20+ hours per week for some other (or multiple) employers.

I will have a look at the contract but i dont remember seeing any clause regarding this. And in any case it would not be a job in the same industry.

Btw, I have B permit. Since i am taxed at source, I assume my tax % or maybe even code would change? Since my current employer deducts the tax automatically, wouldn't they have to be informed if any taxation change is happening?

I remember (when i worked in other company in CH) there was a guy who worked full time during the week and then part time during the weekend, but i never explored this option since at that time I was on L permit.

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Here for example (both in German, sorry):
https://www.beobachter.ch/arbeit/arb...s-viele-fragen
Thanks MathNut. I carefully read the link and this actually answers all of my questions.
This is the part which could apply to my case:
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2. I work full-time in a real estate company and could now help in a bar three times a week. I need the money. Colleagues have told me, however, that it is not permissible to work more than 100 percent.

This is not quite true, the percentage is not critical. However, the Labor Code defines maximum working hours (for example 45 hours in industry, 50 hours in commercial enterprises), which must be complied with - even if you have several employers. In addition, a daily rest period of eleven hours is required. In your case, it would therefore be necessary to examine whether these rules can be complied with, despite the fact that they are a part-time job. Apart from this, your performance in the real estate company may not be subject to the evening supplementary employment, by exhausted and exhausted to work in the morning.
So as conclusion - I could only work few hours (maybe) per week.. which is of course not helpful at all.

It is beyond upsetting to learn this. I am capable of easily working 80h per week and law doesn't allow it.
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I am capable of easily working 80h per week and law doesn't allow it.
You may well be able to work 80h per week. For a while. Long-term, that's not healthy for anyone.

It may be the case - but you would need to research this - that the maximum number of hours is regarded as an "average per week". If that were the case, you might be able to get some crazily intensive work (e.g. in catering at festivals) in which you work for a burst of 5 days, or maybe even just a weekend, but not on a sustained basis, just now and then.

Alternatively, if you cannot increase your income as you would like to or need to, you're probably going to have to look at reducing your expenditure. Sometimes, identifying one or two financial drains (or a few smallish ones, like eating out at lunchtimes) can free up a budget and make one feel much less confined.
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"you can only work 100%" is nothing but a false rumour that is spread around unnecessarily as it is obviously wrong.

You can be a beneficiary of a 100% invalidity benefit yet still work let's say 30% and get paid for it for example without putting at risk the 100% replacement income you are receiving in benefits.
You got a link for this statement ?
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You got a link for this statement ?
I don't need one, I know first-hand that it is correct. Don't expect there to be a gift-wrapped link provided each and every time on the forum.

Perhaps (more to the point) you have a link that disproves my statement, as you seem to be the one doubting it...

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I don't need one, I know first-hand that it is correct. Don't expect there to be a gift-wrapped link provided each and every time on the forum.

Perhaps (more to the point) you have a link that disproves my statement, as you seem to be the one doubting it...
So..... if i am understanding properly you know it is possible to work more than 100%? Could you tell me where i should verify this? Amt fur Wirtschaft und Arbeit?
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I don't need one, I know first-hand that it is correct. Don't expect there to be a gift-wrapped link provided each and every time on the forum.

Perhaps (more to the point) you have a link that disproves my statement, as you seem to be the one doubting it...
Yes you do, the onus is always on the one making the claim.

In additon, you may want to ensure you stay anonymous, the consequences otherwise may not be to your liking at al, and rather severe.

You sound like ...pea...plum...(tree?) - anybody remember the nick (billag was a "favourite" subject of hers)? Always ready to play the system but the first to complain about even the slightest perceived injustice.
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Yes you do, the onus is always on the one making the claim.

In additon, you may want to ensure you stay anonymous, the consequences otherwise may not be to your liking at al, and rather severe.

You sound like ...pea...plum...(tree?) - anybody remember the nick (billag was a "favourite" subject of hers)? Always ready to play the system but the first to complain about even the slightest perceived injustice.
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