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Do employers even sponsor for work permit ??

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I am non-EU currently working in Poland with temporary residence status. I've been looking for the jobs in whole switzerland for months, applying over 10 jobs per day in IT and business industry but all of them denied because of not being able to sponsor work permit. I got a EU boyfriend who has family in Switzerland and I've been embracing him to relocate. Now situation is that I can stay there because I have Schegen visa but not allowed to work. I even started losing hope. Can anyone let me know the companies which sponsor for work permit? Or is there chance that I will be able to work there?
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Old 07.07.2017, 14:44
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Re: Do employers even sponsor for work permit ??

As a non EU person your chances are low, unless you are highly skilled (and that compared to CH and EU people who are here already).

If you read the threads here, you will find a lot of information on this.
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Re: Do employers even sponsor for work permit ??

the legend of employers sponsoring IT workpermits comes from .com (late 90's) epoch, and will probably melt in history by the end of this decade.
IT is being outsourced, clouded and off-the-shelf'd. I've suddenly discovered permission to drive buses and tracks in my driver's license, and now thinking of waving byebye to all my IT experience ))
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Oh, btw, a good half of our local L1 support speaks Polish. Doesn't mean they are *physically* local though.
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Are you also non-EU? How did you find your jobs? Any job is fine for me as long as I got permit L.
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Re: Do employers even sponsor for work permit ??

These days it's hard. My company wanted to bring some non-EU people and kt. ZH rejected applications due to being over the limit... I know for a fact however other kantons have their share of limits... So all in all it's not just about company but also what is possible at kantonal / federal level.

You also need to present a very high value for a company in order for them to go through this effort... at the end of the day there 500 mil people in EU who are available more easily...
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Re: Do employers even sponsor for work permit ??

A Swiss company wanted me to work for them after I blew their minds as a paid intern as an engineer.

Took four years for it to happen, however.

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We're actively looking for IT and marketing (but of course all those jobs will be moved to Poland :P )
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Yup...I should have studied medical science.
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Even that would be useless if you don't speak the local language.

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These days it's hard. My company wanted to bring some non-EU people and kt. ZH rejected applications due to being over the limit... I know for a fact however other kantons have their share of limits... So all in all it's not just about company but also what is possible at kantonal / federal level.

You also need to present a very high value for a company in order for them to go through this effort... at the end of the day there 500 mil people in EU who are available more easily...
Which canton do you think stand the best chance for having permit ?
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Hello everyone,
I am non-EU currently working in Poland with temporary residence status. I've been looking for the jobs in whole switzerland for months, applying over 10 jobs per day in IT and business industry but all of them denied because of not being able to sponsor work permit. I got a EU boyfriend who has family in Switzerland and I've been embracing him to relocate. Now situation is that I can stay there because I have Schegen visa but not allowed to work. I even started losing hope. Can anyone let me know the companies which sponsor for work permit? Or is there chance that I will be able to work there?
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get married. he finds a job in CH, you get a dependent residence permit for family reunification and you can start working.
this is really the simplest procedure.
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It is simple but not a good impression for his family. Here, strangers got married on paper by paying cash for 3 straight years to get polish citizenship and divorce after getting citizenship. People started mistakening if non-eu dates eu. In my opinion, there would be no strict laws for non eu if no body over abused the advantages.
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Which canton do you think stand the best chance for having permit ?
I don't think it's very important, as most IT jobs are in Zurich anyway (my guess is 80%). 10% in Geneva and 10% Bern, and practically none in other cantons.
Keep in mind that, these days, staff searching is also outsourced, headhunting business is an industry by itself. Positions published on companies websites often are pure formality and all applications are *automatically* rejected. Consultancies keep datebanks of CVs and match them against openings at their "client account" companies. The very first match criterion is "how far you are". Qualification comes last.
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It is simple but not a good impression for his family.
I certainly understand not wanting to marry for the 'wrong' reasons, and good on ya for that.

But that said, as long as this is indeed a genuine relationship, as long as you two envision a life together, growing old side by side:

Be aware that the cold hard facts of international immigration sometimes mean that the timeline to marriage needs to be altered if you want to be together.

As others have pointed out, IT in Switzerland is rapidly changing and much of it disppearing. (The two big banks have moved much of their IT to Poland, by the way.)

Because so much is being offshored, nearshored, bestshored, outsourced, resourceed, or whever the current euphemism is - there are a lot of Swiss and EU IT folks already resident here looking for the IT jobs that remain. Those folks have priority over you, a non-EU non-resident. Unless you are in a niche area, or very lucky, you are facing significant barriers going the work permit route.

But marry your EU partner and those barriers fall away.

Making an international relationship work often requires a fair amount of compromise. Time for you and your partner to have a serious heart-to-heart.

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Which Swiss languages do you speak?

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I am non-EU currently working in Poland with temporary residence status. I've been looking for the jobs in whole switzerland for months, applying over 10 jobs per day in IT and business industry but all of them denied because of not being able to sponsor work permit. I got a EU boyfriend who has family in Switzerland and I've been embracing him to relocate. Now situation is that I can stay there because I have Schegen visa but not allowed to work. I even started losing hope. Can anyone let me know the companies which sponsor for work permit? Or is there chance that I will be able to work there?
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You cannot stay here either. Your Polish temporary residence status allows you to visit as a tourist for up to 3 months, but no longer.

Non-EU quota limits are low: 3,000 B permit and 4,500 L permits for a whole year for the whole country. Plus the Swiss recently voted to curb immigration from the EU and although the government hasn't imposed quotas for EU nationals even more emphasis is being put on hiring people who already live and work here.

All you can do if you want to work here is keep applying and hope you get lucky enough to find an employer who'll try for a permit for you. But if you have nothing special to offer them it's unlikely to happen.

Alternatively, if your boyfriend moves here and finds work then he could apply for a concubine permit for you. To get that he'd need to agree to be financially responsible for you for 5 years and I'm not sure you'd be able to work with that permit.
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Alternatively, if your boyfriend moves here and finds work then he could apply for a concubine permit for you. To get that he'd need to agree to be financially responsible for you for 5 years and I'm not sure you'd be able to work with that permit.

Where can I get more information about concubine permit?? I've searched it in google and couldn't find nice source.
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Where can I get more information about concubine permit?? I've searched it in google and couldn't find nice source.
Each canton will have its own rules, but this is Canton Vaud's.

http://www.vd.ch/themes/vie-privee/p...s-du-concubin/

You/they will need to show that it's a long term, commited relationship of several years' standing and also maybe why it hasn't led to marriage yet.
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