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Uk electrician wants to work in switzerland

Hi everyone I am new to the site, I have searched a little for an answer to my problem but come up with nothing, PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!

I am a qualified electrician from the u.k.

I want to come and work in switzerland, I am sure there would be some sort of exam or test I would need to take before I could work in Switzerland, if anyone could shed some light on this subject i would be grateful.
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Hi everyone I am new to the site, I have searched a little for an answer to my problem but come up with nothing, PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!

I am a qualified electrician from the u.k.

I want to come and work in switzerland, I am sure there would be some sort of exam or test I would need to take before I could work in Switzerland, if anyone could shed some light on this subject i would be grateful.
Do you speak German, French or Italian?

If not you will find it very difficult to get work here as an electrician .
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Re: Uk electrician wants to work in switzerland

I'm not sure if you need to take an exam, but if you do it would be highly likely that it was in German or French or Italian - would this be a problem for you

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Hi everyone I am new to the site, I have searched a little for an answer to my problem but come up with nothing, PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!

I am a qualified electrician from the u.k.

I want to come and work in switzerland, I am sure there would be some sort of exam or test I would need to take before I could work in Switzerland, if anyone could shed some light on this subject i would be grateful.
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Re: Uk electrician wants to work in switzerland

Hi Mike, was anyone able to answer you? I'd be really interested to find out.
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Only authorised electricians are permitted to work on circuits behind the fuse box. The job is not very well paid here, after a 4 year apprenticeship these are the minimum wages, http://www.ne.ch/neat/documents/empl...lectriques.pdf

You would have get your qualifications to be recognised before you could be employed http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certifi..._capacit%C3%A9

Part P means (next to) nothing here. You'll need a certificate of capacity, usually done at the end of a 4 year apprenticeship (which includes exams throughout).

This explains the situations where you can apply to bypass the apprenticeship and go straight to exam:
https://www.ne.ch/autorites/DEF/SFPO...eMemoireN6.pdf

Exams will be in the local language, and if you're coming after brexit, there will be quotas. Whether you can bypass the apprenticeship will be decided on a case-by-case basis.

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Re: Uk electrician wants to work in switzerland

Without a high level of fluency in the language, depending the part of Switzerland you want to live in, it will be very difficult.



As a general rule of thumb, upto mid-level management, and especially in this sort of sector, you need to interact with other employees and the common language is usually either French or German or Italian.


You have to be able to communicate easily and properly with your co-workers and management
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Re: Uk electrician wants to work in switzerland

Thanks for the useful info Spinal. It's much appreciated.

I'm looking into the chance of a career change from IT. In the UK it sounds like you can get started in months as an electrician then build on the qualifications over time. I was hoping that those entry qualifications might mean something here but it sounds like i would have to do a whole apprenticeship even to be an appliance fitter. With the knowledge you have, do you see any way around that?

Again i find that once you are down one path here in Switzerland, it is not easy to change.
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Re: Uk electrician wants to work in switzerland

Thanks Today Only for replying and adding to the two previous answers about language. I have lived and worked, here and there, in and out of Switzerland, with my Swiss partner for 20 years... i agree with you.
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Re: Uk electrician wants to work in switzerland

Doesnt the UK have 110V DC ? We here have 230V AC.
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Thanks for the useful info Spinal. It's much appreciated.

I'm looking into the chance of a career change from IT. In the UK it sounds like you can get started in months as an electrician then build on the qualifications over time. I was hoping that those entry qualifications might mean something here but it sounds like i would have to do a whole apprenticeship even to be an appliance fitter. With the knowledge you have, do you see any way around that?

Again i find that once you are down one path here in Switzerland, it is not easy to change.
Contact your local cantonal office where you are planning to live. They usually have programs for people just like you, who want to change career.

What you'll find is that (usually) it's part of the unemployment system to get you remployed, but if you're already employed they will suggest working 2-3 days per week + 1-2 days of training or apprenticeship. It's not a fast process.

It sounds like you don't have any electrical experience, which would mean you would have to do the apprenticeship. That's usually 3-4 days a week working, and 1-2 days a week studying (or evenings). Expect next to no income for 4 years while that happens.

Your biggest challenge will be having a UK passport and no "reason" to be here. Apprenticeships will go first to people who speak the language fluently and are Swiss or already have a permit.

Sadly the UK has undervalued most professions - anyone can "become" a carpenter, electrician, plumber, engineer*, etc overnight. Head to wickes, buy some tools and you're whatever you say you are.

One way forward would be to find a permanent IT job here at 60-80% (3-4 days per week), get a permit... and then in the remaining time find an apprenticeship (you will struggle to find someone willing to take you on for only 2 days per week, but may happen... do that for 6-8 years, and then do the exams.

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*by engineer I don't mean a chartered engineer, but an engineer... we had the guy replacing toner on the printer being called an engineer.
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Thanks for the useful info Spinal. It's much appreciated.

I'm looking into the chance of a career change from IT. In the UK it sounds like you can get started in months as an electrician then build on the qualifications over time. I was hoping that those entry qualifications might mean something here but it sounds like i would have to do a whole apprenticeship even to be an appliance fitter. With the knowledge you have, do you see any way around that?

Again i find that once you are down one path here in Switzerland, it is not easy to change.
(take in mind that I do not know what you do in IT, nor do I know your age)

Honestly I would not do it, it would if you have to start from scratch be yrs before you get a decent position in doing installations in newly build houses/apartments where payments are low and competition is fierce, if you do well than you can leap over to the utility market (building offices and such), do well and you'll can step over to building factory's or do industrial projects, this is where payments start to be better. Now if you also do great here and work on your experience and contacts and land perhaps some certificates or extra schooling in the evenings along you can make it towards an internal maintenance team on a nice factory (of which we do not have to many in Switzerland), or if you are prepared to spend a lot of time away from home become a specialist travelling a lot, those spots have really decent payments but they also ask a lot of you.

Also if you have a family to support from your income, you really have to think very well about taking this step and also you need your partner to fully support you and even better also take a job since life is good here, but being an electrician in the housing market having to support a family on only that income ain't the great life that some of us want to make us believe it is.

The question is, what do you want to achieve? If you just want to have fun and work normal days to get a pay check of 5K while building houses and such the road ahead ain't that bad. If you plan on becoming a well paid experienced electrician the road ahead is long, and not all who try such make it to the end.
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Doesnt the UK have 110V DC ? We here have 230V AC.
No. It’s also 230 VAC/50Hz for single phase mains. There are only few countries that use 120VAC e.g. USA 120VAC/60Hz.

We are talking about single phase only.
https://www.worldstandards.eu/electr...ge-by-country/
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Doesnt the UK have 110V DC ? We here have 230V AC.
Stuff got harmonised over the yrs, Every European country has 230V and besides Belarus, Turkey and Russia all are also 50Hz.

America never could make the switch since when they found out that there are huge advantages to doing so there already was way to much equipment and installations in the country to make the change an economically possibility. Maybe one day in future they'll do it since more and more equipment can handle both.
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