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Hi All,

I wanted to get an idea of the real situation of job opportunities for non-EU graduates from a Swiss University.

I am finishing my PhD at the University of Bern, in computer science. I am looking for a job in IT, mostly considering Software Engineering or Data Science positions. I already registered with RAV. According to the law, I can request a 6-month job-seeker residence permit. Then, if the job I found is needed in Switzerland (probably IT is one of those, since there seems to be a need for IT professionals in CH [1]), I should be given a work permit without the need to demonstrate that it was not possible to find a Swiss/EU citizen or people with job permit who could do that job. However, the quota still needs to be respected (Link [2], Section 4.4.6, page 99).

Now my questions:

1) How is this seen by companies? Do they know about this?

2) What are some tips to convince companies to even look at my CV after knowing my non-EU nationality? Should I mention this somewhere in the cover letter when applying for a job? Especially, many startups have matching jobs, but they do not want to (or simply can't) deal with residence permit issues, so I guess mentioning this should give me some chances.

3) Has anyone experienced or seen someone else who benefited from this law recently? If this is true, then I should target for a start date of early January 2017, instead of immediately.

4) Is it true that the quotas for foreigner workers re-set on January 1st, and then, finish by March?

Thanks a lot for your comments!


[1] "Dans les domaines MINT, en particulier, les cantons et la Confédération appliquent cette règle dans le cadre du régime des nombres maximaux." https://www.parlament.ch/fr/ratsbetr...airId=20173067

[2] https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/se...ngen-aug-f.pdf
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Old 06.09.2017, 18:36
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Re: Job hunting after PhD, non-EU

Now paging Medea...
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Re: Job hunting after PhD, non-EU

The main criteria is that the job is of economic or scientific benefit to Switzerland.

"To find employment, foreign nationals who have earned a Swiss university-level diploma will be entitled to stay in Switzerland for six more months from the time of completing their education or postgraduate studies. Those who are successful in securing employment will be issued a work permit, provided the prospective position involves an activity of particular scientific or economic importance."

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...abgaenger.html

You may not be issued with a 6 month permit to start with, depending on the canton. Some only issue a permit for 3 months with the possibility to extend it for another 3 months.

1. Maybe not all of them, particularly if they're smaller companies.

2. Make it clear you graduated from a Swiss university.

4. The quotas for the year are issued quarterly so you should aim to apply for a permit at the start of the quarter if possible. However, the last few years all the yearly quotas have been used up early (September/October) so some cantons are pressing the government to increase the numbers available.
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Re: Job hunting after PhD, non-EU

Hi!

Thanks a lot for your answers. I guess for this year I am a bit late now, but I will try to find a position for next year when the quotas are renewed. Anyways, if I successfully land any interview, the process would take some time.

I hope I'm able to be of economic or scientific interest for anyone here.

Thanks!
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At month-end July 2017, 55% of the non-EU L and 65% of the non-EU B permits had been used. See p. 12 at this link:

https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/se...-2017-07-d.pdf

The central reserves of non-EU L and non-EU B permits stood at 1'230 and 275, respectively. The cantons still held 810 non-EU L and 780 non-EU B permits at month-end July 2017.
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Re: Job hunting after PhD, non-EU

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1) How is this seen by companies? Do they know about this?
Just to give you my experience with this question. I spoke to HR of my current University and he was not aware of the amendment of the article 21 as linked to by Medea. This was also the case when my wife was discussing her job at a startup in the IT field.

I would advice you to somehow mention this on your CV or call a particular HR person that you send your CV to and ask if they are familiar with this amendment.
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Re: Job hunting after PhD, non-EU

Yes, it's surprising how many companies don't seem to know about the graduation rule even though it's been in force since 1st January 2011. Not sure you could work it into your CV easily, but maybe in the cover letter it could be pointed out.
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Hi All,

I wanted to get an idea of the real situation of job opportunities for non-EU graduates from a Swiss University.

I am finishing my PhD at the University of Bern, in computer science. I am looking for a job in IT, mostly considering Software Engineering or Data Science positions. I already registered with RAV. According to the law, I can request a 6-month job-seeker residence permit. Then, if the job I found is needed in Switzerland (probably IT is one of those, since there seems to be a need for IT professionals in CH [1]), I should be given a work permit without the need to demonstrate that it was not possible to find a Swiss/EU citizen or people with job permit who could do that job. However, the quota still needs to be respected (Link [2], Section 4.4.6, page 99).

Now my questions:

1) How is this seen by companies? Do they know about this?

2) What are some tips to convince companies to even look at my CV after knowing my non-EU nationality? Should I mention this somewhere in the cover letter when applying for a job? Especially, many startups have matching jobs, but they do not want to (or simply can't) deal with residence permit issues, so I guess mentioning this should give me some chances.

3) Has anyone experienced or seen someone else who benefited from this law recently? If this is true, then I should target for a start date of early January 2017, instead of immediately.

4) Is it true that the quotas for foreigner workers re-set on January 1st, and then, finish by March?

Thanks a lot for your comments!


[1] "Dans les domaines MINT, en particulier, les cantons et la Confédération appliquent cette règle dans le cadre du régime des nombres maximaux." https://www.parlament.ch/fr/ratsbetr...airId=20173067

[2] https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/se...ngen-aug-f.pdf
Computer Science/ IT is among the most demanded jobs, keep looking, The chance is relatively high that you find one. Als at the moment Non-EU quota is almost finished in most of the cantons but at the beginning of the next year there will be fresh quotas, so January until March(In GE and ZH) and January until mid-September (for other Cantons) is the best period for finding jobs for non-Europeans.
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Hi All,

I wanted to get an idea of the real situation of job opportunities for non-EU graduates from a Swiss University.

I am finishing my PhD at the University of Bern, in computer science. I am looking for a job in IT, mostly considering Software Engineering or Data Science positions. I already registered with RAV. According to the law, I can request a 6-month job-seeker residence permit. Then, if the job I found is needed in Switzerland (probably IT is one of those, since there seems to be a need for IT professionals in CH [1]), I should be given a work permit without the need to demonstrate that it was not possible to find a Swiss/EU citizen or people with job permit who could do that job. However, the quota still needs to be respected (Link [2], Section 4.4.6, page 99).

Now my questions:

1) How is this seen by companies? Do they know about this?

2) What are some tips to convince companies to even look at my CV after knowing my non-EU nationality? Should I mention this somewhere in the cover letter when applying for a job? Especially, many startups have matching jobs, but they do not want to (or simply can't) deal with residence permit issues, so I guess mentioning this should give me some chances.

3) Has anyone experienced or seen someone else who benefited from this law recently? If this is true, then I should target for a start date of early January 2017, instead of immediately.

4) Is it true that the quotas for foreigner workers re-set on January 1st, and then, finish by March?

Thanks a lot for your comments!


[1] "Dans les domaines MINT, en particulier, les cantons et la Confédération appliquent cette règle dans le cadre du régime des nombres maximaux." https://www.parlament.ch/fr/ratsbetr...airId=20173067

[2] https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/se...ngen-aug-f.pdf
Can you speak German or French at a high level? If not, I would work on it, but most IT jobs can be English speaking.

Focus on the job that you want, write an application, and sell yourself
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