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Hello All,

Could you please tell me if a net salary of CHF3500 is enough to live in Zurich?

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Could you please tell me if a net salary of CHF3500 is enough to live in Zurich?

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Do check the forum please, this has been discussed ad nauseam
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Dear Roegner,

Thanks for your quick answer. Could you kindly tell me where is this nauseam?
I am a very, very new user on this forum. 😀😋

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Hello All,

Could you please tell me if a net salary of CHF3500 is enough to live in Zurich?

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As roegner says, there are dozens of threads on the subject to check but regarding your post, if you don't give more information such as whether you are single, supporting a wife or bringing a family of 6 kids, whether you intend to run a car or eat in restaurants every night, nobody will be able to answer your question.

This is a forum of expats, not clairvoyants.
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Re: Salary

Hello,

I am single, not married, no kids, but i do intend to buy a car.
Thanks for your help guys. Sorry if I repeat this subject. Though I did read some of the threads, It's still not very clear for me.

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Try this...

https://www.englishforum.ch/daily-li...st-living.html
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Re: Salary

Probably tight unless you are going to live a student life.

There is a search function, top right. Use it.

Last edited by Silvestre; 16.09.2017 at 12:03. Reason: Probably tight not right. Stupid iPhone
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Re: Salary

Guys,

Thanks for your answers. But really, it was a simple question. Is it tooooooo small, normal or too high?

I understand that the cost of living is high. It is the same in Luxembourg for example and here an junior officer in a bank is paid with less and is able to have a pretty normal life.
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But really, it was a simple question. Is it tooooooo small, normal or too high?
Too high, too small for what?

So no, it is not a simple question as the situation differs for anyone.
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Guys,

Thanks for your answers. But really, it was a simple question. Is it tooooooo small, normal or too high?

I understand that the cost of living is high. It is the same in Luxembourg for example and here an junior officer in a bank is paid with less and is able to have a pretty normal life.
For sweeping the streets it's high enough. For a bank manager or brain surgeon, it's pretty low.
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Thank you guys! Really helpful! 😀
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Hi Grumpi,

As I mentioned, it is for a junior position in a bank or even a senior position. I was not talking about a manager position. I beleive many people there are working in a bank there and not all of them Are managers.
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How do you know what your net salary is? Normally a salary offered is gross
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Hi Grumpi,

As I mentioned, it is for a junior position in a bank or even a senior position. I was not talking about a manager position. I beleive many people there are working in a bank there and not all of them Are managers.
Well if you had said in the first post what the position was you would have got your answer more quickly. I would say it's pretty low, you will earn that much or maybe more working in a supermarket.
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Guys,

Thanks for your answers. But really, it was a simple question. Is it tooooooo small, normal or too high?

I understand that the cost of living is high. It is the same in Luxembourg for example and here an junior officer in a bank is paid with less and is able to have a pretty normal life.
3500 CHF will be crazy tight.

That's just above 300-500 CHF then what you get when you are on social benefits (Sozialhilfe) and max their benefits out. And in fact when taking out everything into it, actually less..

As a single person, for example, social benefits will pay you: Flat (1100 CHF), 986 CHF per month expenses plus 100-300 CHF integration support.

Plus your health insurance, and any other bigger spending that is necessary.

Basically, if you're on social benefits, you'll get roughly 2500 CHF per month + any bigger expenses paid. Without having to pay taxes really, or any other expenses.

If you're earning 3500 CHF, you'll get paid out around 3100 CHF. You can get subsizies on your health insurance, but not necessary immediately. That's another 300-400 CHF per month. So you'll end up at roughly 2700 CHF.

Now you'll need transport to actually get to work (unless you got lucky and got a very local job). Couple hundred bucks less. You'll be at 2300, 2400 CHF per month. Still a bit taxes to pay on your income. About 2100, 2200 left. That's what flat+expenses are from the social benefits, pretty much.

You can survive on that, but working for 3500 CHF per month isn't really fun at all.

When you're doing a trainee program, or a temp. job before you start something better, that's fine and doable, but for mid-long term? Absolutely not!

Checkout ladies at a Supermarket do earn 4000 CHF per month, and I think that's times 13 (13. Monatslohn)

Better to always state yearly payment over monthly sum!
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Re: Salary

Hi Yuropflyer,

Thanks for your answer. I read it carefully. Now my question is, after I receive the net salary of CHF 3500, I still have taxes to pay after? I thought that expats are receiving the net with the taxes already deducted?
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Hi Yuropflyer,

Thanks for your answer. I read it carefully. Now my question is, after I receive the net salary of CHF 3500, I still have taxes to pay after? I thought that expats are receiving the net with the taxes already deducted?
You´re not an expat, you will be on a local contract.

Taxes depend on a lot of things and yes, will be deducted from your gross salary. Which is why I asked why you are so sure that you will have that net amount?
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I asked not to reveive less then this net amount.
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For sweeping the streets it's high enough. For a bank manager or brain surgeon, it's pretty low.
For state employed persons (city of Zurich) the lowest salary band for function level 1, with lowest expierence is 13x3655/month, the max is function level 18 with max experience 13x18827/month.

So your salary would be between function level 0.8 and 0.9

https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/portal/...uszahlung.html
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Ok. I understand. It is a very low salary even if it is a net amount.

Thank you very much for your help and availability. I really appreciated. 😀
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