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Old 21.01.2018, 11:59
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

Okay, accepted the explanation. It was a misguided comment to the heat of your frustration. I get it. I wish you would soon find a job, so the dark clouds of your sky will go away. We all have low days and I can imagine that your wife will not feel good, either, seeing that you are so frustrated and wishing to return to UK. I'm here too because my partner has a job here, but when I'm so frustrated I try not to make him feel guilty about my situation. Go ahead, English fella! Positive Attitude! Nobody said it was going to be easy.
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Old 21.01.2018, 13:28
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

Great input. Thanks for sharing. And fingers crossed for all the jobseekers out there...including myself.
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

No doubt it is all about the attitude to the situation. When you look for a sunny days don't blame yourself for the raining season, it's the way it is well beyond your powers so just keep calm, don't be disheartened
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

I think it will get worse on the job front due to Switzerland soon to be losing its Corporate Tax shelter status and the removal of banking secrecy will
Make things worse.

The Cantons are no longer allowed to lure corporates with special tax deals unless they want to be blacklisted by the OECD countries.

A new tax reform was put to the vote which would have helped stopping mass exodus of foreign companies, but t was voted down. I wonder if the Swiss voters really understood the proposal.

Read all about it:-

https://www.biznews.com/global-inves...itzerland/amp/
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

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I think it will get worse on the job front due to Switzerland soon to be losing its Corporate Tax shelter status and the removal of banking secrecy will Make things worse.

The Cantons are no longer allowed to lure corporates with special tax deals unless they want to be blacklisted by the OECD countries.

A new tax reform was put to the vote which would have helped stopping mass exodus of foreign companies, but t was voted down. I wonder if the Swiss voters really understood the proposal.
The banking secrecy fell quite a long ago, and the share of financial in the industry fell from about 10% to 5% over the last decade, but not the employment, which probably will catch up.

The Lex Bonny is not used by the cantons since about a decade to attract new companies, but the already installed ones do profit from it.

I doubt the voters had a clue about how much of the tax revenue is diverted to Switzerland through its practices.

In Rolle, Vaud, the nice office building vacated by Yahoo in 2014 is still sitting empty. Might be a sign of oversupply of the office space, or of a demand weaker than it was before...
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

Spring is coming, the evenings are getting longer. My line of work is very seasonal in nature (there's effectively one main hiring season each year, with the occasional crumb thrown out in between times), and now is the season to be merry.

I mentioned in another thread the importance of remaining on good terms with potential employers who reject you - or simply drop you without comment. I cannot emphasise enough how important this is. Don't let pride or frustration lead you to actions which close doors permanently. I've had some very pleasant - and thoroughly unexpected - surprises over the last couple of months, all because I made the effort to remain cordial and professional even when I felt like letting rip.

Nothing permanent or full time yet, but lots of links made, some lovely interviews and visits to potential future employers, and a growing sense of positivity. Completing my B2 German course with flying colours hasn't done any harm either.

We can do this, chaps. We can do this!
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

It is very comforting to read your posts and to realize that I am not alone at waking up during night time wondering how the hell am I going to find a job. What I understand so far is that we kind of all use that time to improve our German level. I regret to not have pursued going to classes while I was working, I would be fluent by now but as I didn't need it and my basic level was allowing me to go by whenever I needed to speak German, I thought it was enough.
What I found frustrating is that even if I was speaking fluent German, I wonder if I would still get a job as very often they ask for German as mother tongue. But even if it is sad to be jobless, I am glad for this post, it cheers me up.
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Old 05.02.2018, 11:26
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I wonder if I would still get a job as very often they ask for German as mother tongue.
As long as your German is good enough and your CV fits, my experience is that they will hire you (don´t have German as a mother tongue either)
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

First time I find myself looking for job externally from my company in almost 15 years, so a bit rusty on that front. Also, I am applying from Ireland. I approached this new challenge a bit too lightly, but realized from the first rejections that it never feels good to receive a no. Luckily I have all the time, it could be now, in 6 months or 2 years. I wish all the best to whoever is in a less fortunate position. As said by others, use the time to learn new things, like the language. Once back at work, you might be so busy that education and courses will be a luxury.
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

Hi, am 55 and quit my job in Bern December 2016 because of employer malpractice, he didn't pay my quellensteuer, case moving slowly through the courts presently
Went to RAV but thought "feck it" let's have an extended holiday in Spain as I had some saved up money, got a call for a job in Brussels in June 2017 and took it with a Swiss payroll company, which made me technically still working in CH and kept applying for swiss jobs and attending interviews(yes, expensive exhausting trips back) and "Voila !" , after at least 40 applications and 8 different interviews I got a job !
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Hi, am 55 and quit my job in Bern December 2016 because of employer malpractice, he didn't pay my quellensteuer, case moving slowly through the courts presently
Went to RAV but thought "feck it" let's have an extended holiday in Spain as I had some saved up money, got a call for a job in Brussels in June 2017 and took it with a Swiss payroll company, which made me technically still working in CH and kept applying for swiss jobs and attending interviews(yes, expensive exhausting trips back) and "Voila !" , after at least 40 applications and 8 different interviews I got a job !
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

Just a quick update and a bit of comforting to those still looking for a job, I finally found one! Ok it is just a fixed contract for a certain period but still, that will be a great experience with a bit of a challenge and I don't have to go on unemployment. Just when I thought I would never find one, I found one!


One thing I find depressing though is that I desperately want to join a big firm like Deloitte, UBS, CS jus to name those, but it seems impossible to get in, even if for a simple position as Team Assistant they thank me but still say no thank you. Any recommendation on this? How do you get in there?
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Fantastic news, Tralala - very happy for you!
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

Tralala, congrats on your job!

One thing you can try to get into the big ones is to replace maternity leaves and the like - once they know you it gets easier to get a permanent role.
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

Thanks Portuguese. I tried but it didn't work. I think I will just keep applying.
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

Sounds like a spell but this year offers started to find the way to my mailbox I accepted one of three offers and then even before starting I got another two interesting ones. I'm happy with my current job so far but I'm considering one of the other offers apart from thinking twice before leaving current job I wonder how long should I hold on to it to appear reasonable. Hell no, I don't want to fall soon on unemployment again. Anyway, once again I wish you the same, finding a good job this year!
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Congrats to you too! I wouldn't wait too long if you are thinking about accepting one of the other offers. How exciting!
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

less than two months after graduation got 2 offers and still getting interview invitations from past applications. The economy seems hot.
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Sounds like a spell but this year offers started to find the way to my mailbox I accepted one of three offers and then even before starting I got another two interesting ones. I'm happy with my current job so far but I'm considering one of the other offers apart from thinking twice before leaving current job I wonder how long should I hold on to it to appear reasonable. Hell no, I don't want to fall soon on unemployment again. Anyway, once again I wish you the same, finding a good job this year!
Congratulations Leszek. May I ask if the offers you got are from German-speaking companies?
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Re: Hi all job seekers, how it's going in the new 2018 year

Hi All,

I find myself (again) in this job-seeking boat twice in two years. The last round was quite the rollercoaster and this round is proving to be almost as depressing

I was laid off end of 2015 when one three-lettered employer offshored my job to a low-cost location and put me in Coach. I applied to other roles internally, but nothing panned out because of ongoing volatility (e.g., team restructurings, no headcount, role reallocations, hiring freezes, etc.) I then got offered a role internally on a project and accepted, but after two months, the project was unexpectedly shut down and was put back into Coach. I applied to roles externally and got an offer with a small private bank. I resigned from the Coach and the day before I was supposed to start the new job, they called and cancelled the contract because of some internal restructuring That really burned like hell because I had five months of Coaching left, fully paid that I lost because of those jack wagons

I then went to RAV, spent about five months until the end of 2016, did a German course during that time, and kicked it up to the next level. I got an offer for a one-year contracting role with one of the global companies and accepted. It was a great gig and I really enjoyed the work, the team, the company. They tried to keep me permanently, but were unable to in the end because the company was doing a mass layoff at the end of the year.

So here, I was, a year later, back in RAV AGAIN, which I'd hoped like hell to avoid. In mid-January, I thought I caught a lucky break when I was recommended for a role in another department at that same company I'd worked with last year. They checked references, all was fine, they made me an offer, I signed the contract and I was supposed to start in the middle of February.

Two weeks before the start date, they called me to say they were rescinding the offer because they'd gotten negative feedback from someone (??????)

When I inquired further, it seemed that someone (an assistant to a high-level executive) I had some interactions with who didn't like me saw my onboarding details and decided to contact the hiring manager and engage in a character assassination of me. Never mind that this person hardly knew me or that I had limited interactions with her, never mind that I got TWO stellar references from two senior managers, and a positive reference from a third person I did some work for. This interfering cow killed it for me with god knows what kinds of lies :

So since the beginning of Feb. I'm back at square one again. I've submitted over 85 job applications since the beginning of this year, more than satisfying the RAV requirements. I have a Goethe certificate and my German is at B1-B2 level. I've had several interviews since, but no closing the deal. In one case, an internal solution was found, in two other cases, they found someone with more relevant experience, in another case, it wasn't the right fit, and I'm still waiting for feedback on the other two interviews I had earlier this month. I have a phone interview coming up for one of the roles I applied for this month. Otherwise, out of 48 applications this month, I got 16 outright rejections, this one phone interview and the rest have been nonresponders.

Like Tralala, I see a lot of "Deutsch als Muttersprache" so I don't even bother applying to those. I've also been hit with the flu REALLY bad and had to put my 16-year-old cat to sleep last month because of feline kidney disease. And did I mention I'm Ü-50?

Anyway, I've tweaked my CV, tailored my motivations letters for each role, put my best foot forward and just have to keep going. I can only say it's been quite depressing, and there are days I think I will never get another job. I cannot believe how the weeks have just flown by and in a few days it will be Easter!!!!

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