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Old 26.02.2018, 22:32
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do you mean to say that you have one employee in Portugal, on the Swiss payroll and social deductions and taxes withheld - and also that the OP has to figure out Portugese taxes and contributions himself?

that is basically what I meant with double taxation.

edit: there is actually an agreement between Switzerland and Portugal to prevent double taxation: https://www.estv.admin.ch/estv/de/ho.../portugal.html
Yes. We have foreign employees on the payroll.

I don't know if they have to take out deductions for Switzerland. They for sure don't take out taxes. Why would they? These employees don't live in Switzerland.
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Yes. We have foreign employees on the payroll.

I don't know if they have to take out deductions for Switzerland. They for sure don't take out taxes. Why would they? These employees don't live in Switzerland.
We as well, one in Germany, another in Sweden.

Neither have Swiss work permits, and only come here a couple times a year.

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We as well, one in Germany, another in Sweden.

Neither have Swiss work permits, and only come here a couple times a year.

Tom
Are they employed as individuals or as a company? And is the salary paid to a Swiss or a foreign bank account?

And is the same setup possible for 3rd country nationals?
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Are they employed as individuals or as a company? And is the salary paid to a Swiss or a foreign bank account?

And is the same setup possible for 3rd country nationals?
They are employees of our company. They are paid into their own bank accounts in their own countries. The currency they are paid in is negotiated with each employee.

I don't understand your question about 3rd country nationals. Can you clarify? The person hired needs to have legal residency and work permit for the country they live in.
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We as well, one in Germany, another in Sweden.

Neither have Swiss work permits, and only come here a couple times a year.

Tom
this is a special situation. they are taxable as of day 1 when they come to Switzerland, as they have a Swiss contract and work in Switzerland for a Swiss company - like any other EU national.

have a look here for the "Meldeverfahren": https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/de/home...verfahren.html
As i assume they a permanent contract, I am not sure if this is applicable though or if they need a normal work permit.
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But I´ll be working for the swiss company (traveling abroad and doing homeworking) and be paid as that; the only issue is that the contract will be Swiss but will be based at Portugal.

So I will do no work at Portugal for the company; will be only physical location where I´ll be based.
You pay taxes there, where you spend >183 days in a year.

I think what the OP implies, is that he wants to live in Portugal with swiss salary AND swiss taxes. That's not gonna work, dude
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They are employees of our company. They are paid into their own bank accounts in their own countries. The currency they are paid in is negotiated with each employee.

I don't understand your question about 3rd country nationals. Can you clarify? The person hired needs to have legal residency and work permit for the country they live in.
I guess you answered it. As far as I get your reply, you say that a Swiss based company (XX AG) can hire an Indian employee on a Swiss contract with company XX AG but that person does not need a Swiss permit as long as "Place of Work" is "Not Switzerland".

Whether that person has residency or permit where the Place of Work is I guess is relevant for company XX AG? It matters for the employee I am sure. But why for the company?
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Re: Swiss contract but living abroad

So, what happened finally?
Does a person with Swiss salary can just pay full taxes in Portugal?
Does he get full refund of the taxes retained at source in CH?
And does he need to pay health insurance in CH or in PT?
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We as well, one in Germany, another in Sweden.

Neither have Swiss work permits, and only come here a couple times a year.

Tom

Hi Tom and others, I have a similar situation: I live in Sweden and the US company based in Zurich offered me a permanent remote position. Since the company is based in Zurich they would like to offer me a Swiss contract. However, the question is how to set this up administratively in Sweden? Where does the Swiss company register for paying all employee contributions in Sweden? I would like to help the company with this information, so I appreciate your answers in advance.
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Re: Swiss contract but living abroad

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Hi Tom and others, I have a similar situation: I live in Sweden and the US company based in Zurich offered me a permanent remote position. Since the company is based in Zurich they would like to offer me a Swiss contract. However, the question is how to set this up administratively in Sweden? Where does the Swiss company register for paying all employee contributions in Sweden? I would like to help the company with this information, so I appreciate your answers in advance.
Most of the time you will need to register a company wherever you are based and have a service contract with the company. This is not the same as a work contract. You are your own company and offer a service abroad.

Being employed by a company that has no legal presence in the country you reside in is just not legally possible. Who would pay your unemployment insurance, your pension etc etc. As I said earlier, only possible if you pay them yourself in your country.
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Re: Swiss contract but living abroad

Possible, but still not that common in Switzerland, unfortunately.
As I stated in another topic, companies here are very conservative in that matter, and sometimes it's very hard to convince the management that something like that could be a valuable option.
People work for Swiss start-ups that way, and you can too, but first you need to find them, and that's not an easy task
I've been searching for offers like that myself and companies are really shy in that matter, and there's not that much job boards that allows you to filter by 'remote' or maybe I'm capable enough of finding them, at least purely for IT market.
There is SwissDevJobs.ch, but only a couple of offers, LinkedIn of course, but limited amount as well, and maybe itjobs.ch
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