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According to those online calculators, to maintain a similar standard of living, 65k euro in Hamburg is equivalent to 140k CHF in Zürich.
Thats fairly nonsense.

65k in Germany will leave you with approx 35k after taxes (and health insurance). 40k CHF

140k CHF will leave you at about 110k (average health insurance incl)

Life is more expensive here but not ANYHOW close to that.
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Don't forget other smaller expenses such as obligatory TV tax, trash bags etc. They might look small but can bite very well..
TV tax exists in Germany as well.

Trash bags? are you kidding me??
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Don't forget other smaller expenses such as obligatory TV tax, trash bags etc. They might look small but can bite very well..
trash bags?
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Old 13.03.2018, 05:47
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Don't forget other smaller expenses such as obligatory TV tax, trash bags etc. They might look small but can bite very well..
Any idea what you pay in Germany for trash? A lot more than for a couple of bags here. TV tax as you call it is EUR 17,5 per month.
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Thats fairly nonsense.

65k in Germany will leave you with approx 35k after taxes (and health insurance). 40k CHF

140k CHF will leave you at about 110k (average health insurance incl)

Life is more expensive here but not ANYHOW close to that.
Completely agree, there ware some serious exaggerations as to Swiss living costs flying around... as always. I manage to save around half of my salary per month and I hardly live like a monk.

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Any idea what you pay in Germany for trash? A lot more than for a couple of bags here. TV tax as you call it is EUR 17,5 per month.
Daughter pays 460€ p.a to take away the trash.
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trash bags?
The poster probably referred to the fact that in some areas/towns in Switzerland you are forced to buy the trash bags that the local town provides and the cost for these are very high compared to the normal trash bags that you can find doing the google search which Richdog so kindly linked to...

The cost for the mandatory trash bags can be e.g. 15 CHF for 10 which is quite expensive if you ask me - but whether that would be a significant amount on your household budget, let alone being an important factor in deciding what salary is appropriate for you - I very much doubt given the range you are looking at. Unless you generate a huge amount of waste going about your daily life of course.
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Re: Offered a job in Zurich

While we are veering off onto the subject of garbage and other incidental taxes:

To the OP:

Be aware that each canton and/or municipality taxes according to the prevailing philosophy and needs of the community - that's the beauty of a decentralized system. You will read about different sorts of taxes, and tax rates, for various things. Some of comments you read will contradict others, simply because we live in different communities where taxes are levied differently.

For instance, I live in Steuerparadis SZ, where we have very low income taxes. However, I pay relatively high usage taxes - be it garbage, water/sewage, dog tax, road tax, etc.

Reducing a somewhat complex discussion down to the simplistic, the way things work in my community is that social goods benefiting all (police, fire, schools, etc.) are paid out of general taxation, but the cost of 'lifestyle choices' that benefit only some - like the dog tax, or the additional water I use in my garden - are born by the user, not his neighbors who live differently. Things like the garbage tax are used as social engineering; in addition to a basic fee based on size of household which covers the cost of the service, the per bag tax is there to encourage you to reduce your garbage creation.

Each community sets it taxes as it needs to in order to come up with a workable budget. Just plan for a cushion for those 'user taxes'.
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Re: Offered a job in Zurich

Germany, like Switzerland, is a confederation and the taxes on local stuff vary a lot.

I pay 123.60 for a 120l trashcan per year. Where I lived in CH would this get me one medium sized bag in CH per week. I am pretty sure I needed more. Anyways, I can assure you that trash collecting fees are not a major cost driver in either country. However, CH has a LOT of small stuff that adds up quickly.
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Re: Offered a job in Zurich

waelkd, I have no idea how much Senior Account Managers make but guessing from the 65K you are being paid in Germany, I guess going in at about 110K in CH won't be unreasonable.
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waelkd, I have no idea how much Senior Account Managers make but guessing from the 65K you are being paid in Germany, I guess going in at about 110K in CH won't be unreasonable.
hopefully ill begetting the offer in the next 10 days , so ill wait and see 110 should be good
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Re: Offered a job in Zurich

Nice post, and some good feedback. I will hopefully be in a similar situation soon. I know that I can look for a similar 105/110k range based on the market is Switzerland, and I will be leaving a similar salary as the OP, a bit higher but in a more expensive country.
My reasoning includes:
- Is moving to another country, and Switzerland in particular, a priority?
- Do you have short/mid term growing opportunities in your current role/location? In my case, I have just been given a senior role, so I don’t expect much to change in the next couple of years. A change of company or country is something new compared to the routine that you could face in the current role.
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