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Re: Salary for international internal transfer - how to avoid being lowballed?

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In shops it can be because of low duty and VAT, but in bars it is more expensive



Edi's though is the massive exception to the rule. 3.50 for 1dl where most bars charge 5.00 - 8.00. But the price is not the only reason I love Edi's!
Aura bar... 12chf for a glass of wine. Aura Club is even worse, you can pay up to 30chf for a gin and tonic.

Absolutely ridiculous.
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Old 17.04.2018, 14:05
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I....Zurich is an absurdly expensive city and even living solo on 100k will see 30-40% wiped out on rent before you consider health insurance, the cost of food and entertainment and then any 'luxuries' you may consider. Living in a shared arrangement though would have you extremely comfortable however with plenty to spare...it's down to what you want and need really.
As has been mentioned on this thread, rents in London are even more absurd than Zurich. It's not difficult to find a decent (not luxury) 3 room flat in Zurich for around CHF 1,500 pm; in London that is probably going to cost you over CHF 2,000 and be even harder to find than Zurich.
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t's not difficult to find a decent (not luxury) 3 room flat in Zurich for around CHF 1,500 pm.
A 3.5 room apartment for 1500chf isn't difficult to find? On which planet?

The average price of even an older 3 to 3.5 room apartment is around 1800chf even in the "ghettos" (I use the term ironically) of Oerlikon and Altstetten. Most that cost 1500chf are either short-term rentals or are completely dilapidated. Examples here https://www.homegate.ch/rent/108222974?10
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Old 17.04.2018, 14:42
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As has been mentioned on this thread, rents in London are even more absurd than Zurich. It's not difficult to find a decent (not luxury) 3 room flat in Zurich for around CHF 1,500 pm; in London that is probably going to cost you over CHF 2,000 and be even harder to find than Zurich.
There is exactly one currently on Homegate.ch. 3.5 rooms, under 1600
Only available May to September 2018

Having a legacy rent under 1500 for the last 10 years might be possible, but not new rentals.

Another 2 if you go under 1700, only one with pictures.
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A 3.5 room apartment for 1500chf isn't difficult to find? On which planet?

The average price of even an older 3 to 3.5 room apartment is around 1800chf even in the "ghettos" (I use the term ironically) of Oerlikon and Altstetten. Most that cost 1500chf are either short-term rentals or are completely dilapidated. Examples here https://www.homegate.ch/rent/108222974?10

Homegate is a bad reference. They only publish expensive stuff for clueless newcomers, nobody would rent it otherwise. Through friends or local newspapers/adboards you can get a much better deal.
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Homegate is a bad reference. They only publish expensive stuff for clueless newcomers, nobody would rent it otherwise. Through friends or local newspapers/adboards you can get a much better deal.
I have been here for 10 years, and a 3-3.5 room apartment for 1500chf is not, by any stretch of the imagination, "easy to find". Do they exist in extremely limited quantities? Yes. Do they grow on trees for people new to the country without any kind of existing network or knowledge of the country? No.
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I have been here for 10 years, and a 3-3.5 room apartment for 1500chf is not, by any stretch of the imagination, "easy to find". Do they exist in extremely limited quantities? Yes. Do they grow on trees for people new to the country without any kind of existing network or knowledge of the country? No.
Where did I say it is easy to find? It is possible, not easy. And not for a newcomer, though.
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Re: Salary for international internal transfer - how to avoid being lowballed?

In terms of housing, my plan was to rent a one bedroom apartment. From what I can see on homegate, it should be possible to find something decent for around CHF 1700-1800, which should be around 1/3 of my take home pay at 80k.

Does the "rent should be 1/3 of your monthly income" rule apply to gross or net monthly salary? I did a bit of research and I found conflicting information..
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Re: Salary for international internal transfer - how to avoid being lowballed?

There's super easy way to avoid definitely being lowballed - grossly overestimate yourself

But in reality there's no solution unless you know a secret agent inside the company going to hire you
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Re: Salary for international internal transfer - how to avoid being lowballed?

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In terms of housing, my plan was to rent a one bedroom apartment. From what I can see on homegate, it should be possible to find something decent for around CHF 1700-1800, which should be around 1/3 of my take home pay at 80k.

Does the "rent should be 1/3 of your monthly income" rule apply to gross or net monthly salary? I did a bit of research and I found conflicting information..
30% of net....so on 80k that's about 1.6k. As others have said, 80k is way too low imo
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Where did I say it is easy to find? It is possible, not easy.
It was baboon who said it, here:
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It's not difficult to find a decent (not luxury) 3 room flat in Zurich for around CHF 1,500 pm
I think that's optimistic, and agree with:
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...not for a newcomer, though.
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