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Hi All,


I was an IT contractor at a pharmaceuticals company in Basel. I did application support for the HR systems at the company.


End of last year my contract ended as the company was taken over by an other large pharmaceuticals player.


I have since tried to find work in the IT field for almost 6 months and have had very little luck. The main problem is that i do not speak German and most positions i apply for, i am told that the role was given to someone with German skills.


My core skills are Server Administration, Application Support and Public Cloud offerings. I do Windows, OSX, Linux, Office 365, Taleo, Lumesse, Kendox and many other systems.



I have profiles with all the recruiting companies like Swislinx, Experis, Stamford etc and i apply for 2-3 jobs/contracts daily.


The problem is that i am now running out of savings and as a contractor i had an L permit and thus cannot get anything from RAV.


I am now just grasping at straws wondering if any one here knows of any place in Basel/Zürich looking for an IT guy that does not require German. Anything would be of interest, but if it is UBS or Novartis, i have probably already applied.


If any of you know of any temp work even not IT related that might be of interest as well.



I do not require a 6 figure salary even though my experience would justify that.


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Old 22.05.2018, 21:44
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The problem is that i am now running out of savings and as a contractor i had an L permit and thus cannot get anything from RAV.
I am not entirely sure if L permit would preclude you from getting help from the RAV. If I understand correctly then as long as you have worked for at least 12 months in the last 24 months then you are entitled to RAV benefits.

Are you sure you are not entitled to it?
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I am not entirely sure if L permit would preclude you from getting help from the RAV. If I understand correctly then as long as you have worked for at least 12 months in the last 24 months then you are entitled to RAV benefits.

Are you sure you are not entitled to it?

Yea that is what they said. No help on an L permit. Technically it is no help on an expired permit and an L permit.



L permits are for the duration of the contract and expire when it is over.


Of course it would be nice to get benefits but to be honest i would prefer to get some work instead of slacking off on others dime.
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L permits are for the duration of the contract and expire when it is over.
How do you manage to stay in Switzerland if your permit is not valid? Technically it's illegal, right?


Perhaps you missed some opportunity. You should have visited the RAV/ORP office before your last day of work, sign up, then you would get another L permit just because you had guaranteed an income from the RAV.
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Re: English speaking IT guy looking for work

EU nationals can be here for up to 3 months as tourists - which is what the OP became when his permit expired. 6 months is over the limit, since he can't be a resident here without a permit.
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Re: English speaking IT guy looking for work

Request a student visa and enroll in a 6 month intensive german course.
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Yea that is what they said. No help on an L permit. Technically it is no help on an expired permit and an L permit.



L permits are for the duration of the contract and expire when it is over.


Of course it would be nice to get benefits but to be honest i would prefer to get some work instead of slacking off on others dime.
I would challenge that view.

Did you work for 12 months within the last 24 months? Yes or no?

The RAV decides your entitlement to insurance benefits purely based on contribution to the insurance scheme full stop.

The migration office decides on your entitlement to stay in the country, and I know a few people who got their permit extended for one year even though they were jobless when it was clear that they were entitled to RAV help. I can also check if L permit was the case, pretty sure one guy had an L permit when he was on the RAV.

I appreciate you don’t feel like claiming such a benefit for reasons beyond logic. That’s your choice. For me it’s like not claiming on a car insurance when you have a crash.
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The migration office decides on your entitlement to stay in the country, and I know a few people who got their permit extended for one year even though they were jobless when it was clear that they were entitled to RAV help. I can also check if L permit was the case, pretty sure one guy had an L permit when he was on the RAV.

I appreciate you don’t feel like claiming such a benefit for reasons beyond logic. That’s your choice. For me it’s like not claiming on a car insurance when you have a crash.
Very true, it's an insurance not a social aid.

People with L permit are eligible as well as long as they have paid to the insurance system. That exclude contractors who decided to act as self employed.

For the immigration office it is enough to prove that you have funds to live here, either an income (like RAV) or deposit. There was a thread here on EF where someone shared that the immigration officer gave them L permit for a duration in months calculated as deposit/2k chf. In other words they just check wether you have a bare minimum to live here.

On the contrary I know a guy who run out of money having B permit. He asked for social aid which he was given but then the immigration office canceled his B permit asking him to leave Switzerland within two weeks.
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Re: English speaking IT guy looking for work

I find it a bit weird that you struggle to find something. Market is full of offers (at least in Zurich) for Sys admins / sys engineers etc.
If I were you I'd apply everywhere where I can.
Also, look / chat to recruiters about what skills you might be missing and get them (eg. AWS / GCP, infra as a code, service design etc) - this will help.
(I am in the same filed)
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Re: English speaking IT guy looking for work

I also know a guy who was paid by the RAV for 6 months... but was allowed to apply for jobs in UK and here. And they said he could go back to UK and still claim.



In his 17 years here he had neglected to learn German... so went back to UK and applied for jobs remotely and came back every 3 months to register/meet as required by RAV. Swiss payments, UK expenses (and he lived with his Mum back in UK). Used his mileage points up for flights.



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Re: English speaking IT guy looking for work

I have been looking for 8 months, I had a few interviews but no job offers. I am still covered by RAV for another 8 months. Its very frustrating but its not easy to find work anywhere these days, especially here; and I am very competitive -highly qualified and experienced, with strong finance background
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