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RAV, some months away and then back again?

Hello EF,

I have a question that I'm not really comfortable to bring with my consultant. Maybe someone here knows how it works.

I'll be unemployed soon and one option for me is to go abroad to fill some skill gap that will increase my chance to find a good job afterwards.

I think RAV will not care about it and I will not get any money if I go abroad, I could be "fine" with it.

Question: when I will come back, will my unemployment status will start from 0 or will I lose the right to get support.. or those months are lost?

Thanks for your support.

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Old 09.10.2018, 19:56
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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

You will simply have to ask the RAV, think of it this way,as soon as you are registered the RAV is your employer.
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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

I think RAV is based on the most recent X months of earnings? If you're abroad and not employed nor on RAV then it wouldn't surprise me if you take a hit when you get back.
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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

How do you plan on filling what skill gap?
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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

You will lose.

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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

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How do you plan on filling what skill gap?
would also love to know the answer to this
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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

You can apply to RAV when you come back and your payments will start from the day you applied. But they will look at your applixations for the past 3 months. If you keep applying to 10-12 jobs a month while you are away you should be fine.
You will get no money for the break between your last day of employment and first day you are on the RAV unless you register without telling them you are going to be abroad. I am not saying you should do that but I am sure there are people who do and get away with it.
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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

I am not an expert and its best to speak to the RAV.

- The RAV may pay for you to do those skills here if you can persuade them they are absolutely essential for you to find employment (be clear, for you to find employment in your position, not to better yourself, the RAV dont care if you want to earn more)

- You have if I understand well 2 years to claim 18 months worth of money (as long as you are entitled to the full term), so I think you could go traveling for 6 months, come back and claim the 18 months RAV. You could go traveling for 1 year, but when you came back you would only have 1 year to claim. You must look for jobs for 3 months before you start to claim though

- The RAV do allow you to job search abroad. If you could perusade them you are job hunting where ever these course are, and can show you have been looking for jobs, if you do the courses on the side, the RAV should still pay you

But on a topic like this, you really can only get some info on this web site, you will have to speak to the adviser for them to give you accurate information.
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- You have if I understand well 2 years to claim 18 months worth of money (as long as you are entitled to the full term), so I think you could go traveling for 6 months, come back and claim the 18 months RAV. You could go traveling for 1 year, but when you came back you would only have 1 year to claim. You must look for jobs for 3 months before you start to claim though
You don't understand well.

If you go away for 6 months without claiming ALK payments, they will be based on the last 6 or 12 months (whichever is to the advantage of the claimer) from the date you start claiming, thus no income for six months means half as much average salary, 12 months = 0.

Also, depending on age, it's 24 months and not 18.

If you do claim immediately, you can't go away for 6 months, or even one month.

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I think RAV is based on the most recent X months of earnings? If you're abroad and not employed nor on RAV then it wouldn't surprise me if you take a hit when you get back.
It depends on the circumstances. A friend had 2 months out of CH to care for his elderly father when his mum died. RAV were kept aware throughout and they continued his payments.

Honesty is the best policy with RAV.
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How do you plan on filling what skill gap?
Can't share here, sorry.
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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

Thanks all for your contribution. I will try to pitch this to the consultant, let's see if she's ok with my plan.

I will keep you posted, in case this can be beneficial for someone else in the future.
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Can't share here, sorry.
Wut?

In that case the answer is going to be very simple, you put yourself in a position where you cannot find a job and that you will notice on their payments if they even decide to give you any during or after that period.
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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

Why not register with the RAV and go through the first 5 or 6 months process (with 70% money) THEN take the 3 months "searching abroard" option on full Arbeitsloskasse?
You may even find a job in this time - also you have enough time to make private online training if you are really serious about upgrading your skills. The extra money you receive would more than cover the most expensive courses that I have ever seen.
What job requires a face to face training that cannot be done with Skype and the like these days?
Even cooking has youtube options!
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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

I forgot prostitution!
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I forgot prostitution!
Beyond doubt the subject with most instruction videos online.
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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

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Wut?

In that case the answer is going to be very simple, you put yourself in a position where you cannot find a job and that you will notice on their payments if they even decide to give you any during or after that period.
Why should he/she give you more personal information? It is none of your business.

The OP is entitled to RAV payments from the day they register. RAV cannot deny them payment just because they register late
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Why not register with the RAV and go through the first 5 or 6 months process (with 70% money) THEN take the 3 months "searching abroard" option on full Arbeitsloskasse?
You may even find a job in this time - also you have enough time to make private online training if you are really serious about upgrading your skills. The extra money you receive would more than cover the most expensive courses that I have ever seen.
What job requires a face to face training that cannot be done with Skype and the like these days?
Even cooking has youtube options!
Try to keep this forum useful, avoid your silly - useless - statements and help the community if you can contribute.

Thank you.
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Re: RAV, some months away and then back again?

Read what you quoted. It is based on 20 years living here
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RAV cannot deny them payment just because they register late
The ALK can.

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