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Rav Payment after going part time

Hopefully somebody can help me. My wife is currently on maternity leave and prior to that was working 100%, her agreement when she comes back is that she will work 50% and has a contract ready to sign based on this.

My question is, my wife is considering not going back to work due to the very long commut etc. But if she signed the 50% contract and she quit her current role, what would the RAV payment be, 80% of the 100% or 80% of the 50%?
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Re: Rav Payment after going part time

The monthly earnings for RAV calculation purposes is either an average of the last six months or an average of the last 12 months, if this average results in a higher amount. See para. C15 at p. 184:

http://www.doku.arbeitsrechtler.ch/A...chtamtlich.pdf
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Old 22.10.2018, 11:18
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Hopefully somebody can help me. My wife is currently on maternity leave and prior to that was working 100%, her agreement when she comes back is that she will work 50% and has a contract ready to sign based on this.

My question is, my wife is considering not going back to work due to the very long commut etc. But if she signed the 50% contract and she quit her current role, what would the RAV payment be, 80% of the 100% or 80% of the 50%?
She needs to be careful with simply quitting because the RAV payments will be subject to lengthy sanctions.
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Old 22.10.2018, 11:20
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Hopefully somebody can help me. My wife is currently on maternity leave and prior to that was working 100%, her agreement when she comes back is that she will work 50% and has a contract ready to sign based on this.

My question is, my wife is considering not going back to work due to the very long commut etc. But if she signed the 50% contract and she quit her current role, what would the RAV payment be, 80% of the 100% or 80% of the 50%?
RAV payments are actually due to cash earnings & not actual percentages of work however most advisors will not have worked it out.

If you work 50% at 40% of your old salary and have children, your monthly gross income will be 88% of your OLD full time salary.

60% shortfall @80% = 48% compensation

At 60% pay you end up with 92% of old gross pay.

Net salary will be higher as no pension investment will be made on the unemployment payout, just insurance risks which you pay in full.

The commute by public transport has to exceed 4 hours a day do be an acceptable reason to not accept any work offered.
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Old 22.10.2018, 11:35
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RAV payments are actually due to cash earnings & not actual percentages of work however most advisors will not have worked it out.

If you work 50% at 40% of your old salary and have children, your monthly gross income will be 88% of your OLD full time salary.

60% shortfall @80% = 48% compensation

At 60% pay you end up with 92% of old gross pay.

Net salary will be higher as no pension investment will be made on the unemployment payout, just insurance risks which you pay in full.

The commute by public transport has to exceed 4 hours a day do be an acceptable reason to not accept any work offered.
Is this just your opinion?

As far as I know, if you are actively looking for part time your payments will be adjusted accordingly.

If you accept “permanent” part time work, the RAV will NOT make up the shortfall.

They only make up shortfalls for temp work where, indeed, it would work out more than the RAV payments on their own.
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My question is, my wife is considering not going back to work due to the very long commut etc. But if she signed the 50% contract and she quit her current role, what would the RAV payment be, 80% of the 100% or 80% of the 50%?
It would depend on what she tells them her intended % of employment is when she goes back. As I understand it the entitlement is multiplied by the intended % of employment. Which leaves the door open for someone to intend to work 100% but only accept %80 or %60. (You are allowed to change your mind)
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Is this just your opinion?

As far as I know, if you are actively looking for part time your payments will be adjusted accordingly.

If you accept 8220;permanent8221; part time work, the RAV will NOT make up the shortfall.

They only make up shortfalls for temp work where, indeed, it would work out more than the RAV payments on their own.
No fact as I had 4 Rahemnfrists of 400 days each over 8 1/2 years. Therefore I must have worked at least 18 months in the first 3 periods. Likely to have some idea how part time work is calculated as I only twice worked for an employer for more than 5 days & on average worked 8 days a month yet on the last one my earnings were capped by the 10,500 limit imposed at the time. Amusingly the Casa always told me I was not eligible for benefits when I turned up with my paperwork for my 3 renewals, however they were incorrect. Any month without a RAV payment due to earnings is considered 100% working that month from calculation POV.

You have a legal responsibility to accept any work offered, it's still necessary to continue looking for full time work to replace part time work or additional part time work.

They certainly accept permanent part time work, compensation only paid for the length of the rahemnfrist.
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If you accept “permanent” part time work, the RAV will NOT make up the shortfall.
Yes, they will.

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Re: Rav Payment after going part time

I believe the point I am making is still valid. Which is:

If you tell the RAV (it might actually be the ALK) that you are only interested in working x% of time then they will adjust your payments accordingly.

This question is asked every month in the piece of paper you have to send. I don’t know why they ask it so it is only an “educated guess”, because I don’t think it’s just for statistics.
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I believe the point I am making is still valid. Which is:

If you tell the RAV (it might actually be the ALK) that you are only interested in working x% of time then they will adjust your payments accordingly.

This question is asked every month in the piece of paper you have to send. I don’t know why they ask it so it is only an “educated guess”, because I don’t think it’s just for statistics.
You have to be looking & available for work, so will in most cantons need child care in place to be able to claim each month.
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If you tell the RAV (it might actually be the ALK) that you are only interested in working x% of time then they will adjust your payments accordingly.
There is probably a difference between accepting part time work while looking for a full time job, and telling them that you only want to work x%.

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Re: Rav Payment after going part time

It's also possible to be part time self employed when unemployed, which is how I felt with foreign work.
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You have to be looking & available for work, so will in most cantons need child care in place to be able to claim each month.
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There is probably a difference between accepting part time work while looking for a full time job, and telling them that you only want to work x%.

Tom
So we8217;re all saying one and the same thing

Conclusion:
If the OP8217;s wife wants to work part-time the RAV won8217;t be subsidizing her for the difference to 100% unless she:
a) Is willing to work 100% (which she is not)
b) if she accepts part-time work she would need to continue to look for full-time work or do multiple jobs.

To the OP:

Your wife should just make an appointment and be honest with the RAV advisor what her intentions are and he / she will tell her how to proceed. Whatever information you get here is useless in the end and might be completely misleading.
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Re: Rav Payment after going part time

Based on all the conflicting answers, I guess the OP is more confused.

It would be good to know with proof and links if someone is offered a 50% job while on RAV and is still looking for 100% role, will the RAV make up the difference to that persons RAV payments on what they used to get from the RAV?
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Re: Rav Payment after going part time

It will be 80% of her earnings as explained by Mulhollander, adjusted to the % job she is looking for (with arranged childcare for that %) so if you only have 50% childcare, she will get 80:2=40%. In any case she will be punished for not signing her new contract or not applying for other jobs in the final months of her maternity leave (you are obliged to start applying from 5 weeks after the birth).
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