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Re: Pre-employment Screening process

It seems st2lemans and TodayOnly are allies here.

Sometimes I really wonder people in EF actually know each other in real life.

Or can it be because I am a non-EU and gets this kind of treatment here?
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It is wrong that all have asshole. There is a type of disease people do not have asshole as a birth defect. In the past, these people surely died.

It is also wrong that gender ratio is 50:50. Not to mention transgender surgery..

For one to feel embrassed with the test, it is totally personal. Who tells you someone is "so uptight about it"? Where/How did you see it?



Lets say 99.9 % then and by the way, Transgender people keep their own assholes as born with


As for calling me a pervert because i can talk about something perfectly normal and so absolutely common probably describes you rather than me.



Their is nothing that can be construed as "perverted" by talking a bout such things, possibly not talking about then is a greater form of perversion as it quite often leads to terminal illness
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Old 08.02.2020, 16:27
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Re: Pre-employment Screening process

Part of this is 'cover my ass' - they demand eg. from a headhunter to do this check so they can say it's done.

Part of this is really necessary - I have seen a LOT of cases of people faking credentials. Either completely making them up or positioning their resume/linkedin profile in such a way that it leaves in impression of having graduated when in fact it never happened. Really sneaky. Even with former co-students of mine which I occasionally check up on via linkedin.
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Old 08.02.2020, 16:45
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Re: Pre-employment Screening process

Keep the personal comments out of it, please. Some members clearly find health checks invasive and anxiety-inducing, others not. No one is right or wrong when it comes to what makes one feel uncomfortable. It just is.

I also think we've got two issues going on in this thread - a general pre-employment "screening" that has nothing to do with medical stuff but is more of a background check to see whether the potential employee has made up a bunch of qualifications.

Then there are pre-employment health screenings. I had one here, and was told it had to do with extra insurance and the pension plan. In the U.S. my pre-employment health screenings were always to check for illicit drugs and to make sure I wouldn't get hired and then immediately go on sick leave.
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Re: Pre-employment Screening process

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Lets say 99.9 % then and by the way, Transgender people keep their own assholes as born with


As for calling me a pervert because i can talk about something perfectly normal and so absolutely common probably describes you rather than me.



Their is nothing that can be construed as "perverted" by talking a bout such things, possibly not talking about then is a greater form of perversion as it quite often leads to terminal illness
Oh man, did you read post carefully before posting? My points about ass and gender are two separate points.

If you can prove someone enjoying being touched their "nuts" during medical test is alright, then let me know. I will retract my describing you as "pervert".
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Keep the personal comments out of it, please. Some members clearly find health checks invasive and anxiety-inducing, others not. No one is right or wrong when it comes to what makes one feel uncomfortable. It just is.

I also think we've got two issues going on in this thread - a general pre-employment "screening" that has nothing to do with medical stuff but is more of a background check to see whether the potential employee has made up a bunch of qualifications.

Then there are pre-employment health screenings. I had one here, and was told it had to do with extra insurance and the pension plan. In the U.S. my pre-employment health screenings were always to check for illicit drugs and to make sure I wouldn't get hired and then immediately go on sick leave.
Totally agree. But someone started the fight by "groaning" my post, which is completely objective (you can look back).

Some people just do whatever they want, without thinking. They "groan" even without looking carefully at others' post. These people (e.g. TodayOnly and stleman2) must be eliminated.
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Keep the personal comments out of it, please. Some members clearly find health checks invasive and anxiety-inducing, others not. No one is right or wrong when it comes to what makes one feel uncomfortable. It just is.

I also think we've got two issues going on in this thread - a general pre-employment "screening" that has nothing to do with medical stuff but is more of a background check to see whether the potential employee has made up a bunch of qualifications.

Then there are pre-employment health screenings. I had one here, and was told it had to do with extra insurance and the pension plan. In the U.S. my pre-employment health screenings were always to check for illicit drugs and to make sure I wouldn't get hired and then immediately go on sick leave.
I occasionally need to submit medical updates to my current pension plan as my salary goes up and pension / etc. rights to up above a certain level. I've found Swiss doctors to always be very 'cool' about these things "oh, it is for insurance purposes, well then we'll just say that all is fine".
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Totally agree. But someone started the fight by "groaning" my post, which is completely objective (you can look back).

Some people just do whatever they want, without thinking. They "groan" even without looking carefully at others' post. These people (e.g. TodayOnly and stleman2) must be eliminated.
A groan is not a fight. It is an expression of disagreement. You've used it too, and to claim "he started it" is a childish excuse. Disagreements happen.

The idea that users need to be "eliminated" is a bit far. You happen to disagree with each other, fine. You're the one calling others a pervert, which is a personal attack when you also know nothing about the other person.
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Re: Pre-employment Screening process

To the OP and others who go through a similar process: I had to consent to a background check here in the UK too for an office based job in a well-known Pharma company. It is not unique to Switzerland. The contract stated that my employment start is subject to a 'clear' finding of the background check.
I negotiated with my future employer in the UK that my start date will be 3 months 'after' the background check is completed. They agreed to it and I sent in my resignation in my previous job when the background check was done.

My point is: this is is not 'Switzerland' specific, but perhaps industry specific or company specific. Having said that, I did not have to do that in another Pharma country in a different country than UK, so perhaps it is company-specific.
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Re: Pre-employment Screening process

They asked me to sign that I am aware that it may be necessary for the information given in this application to be transferred to countries outside the EEA, which may have less comprehensive data protection legislation than the UK.

Where would that be?


That probably just means that they are using a non EU data centre/server and/or use a shared service centre outside the EU. The vast majority of multinationals do.
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Re: Pre-employment Screening process

Hello, please may I ask you how you solve it at the end? I do have similar situation. As well pharma and strange job offer, starting date but I had to sign the materials for third party pre employment screening. And I am not comfortable with it as I dont want to resign. This came as surprise. Thank you
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