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24.01.2019, 11:57
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| | | Re: How far can a company go in harrasing employees in Switzerland
| Quote: | |  | | | Don't play silly. You know what I meant.
You claim to be Swiss from Ticino, over and over again ad nauseam. And technically you are right. | | | | | Except that technically I am Swiss from St. Gallen. 
And my wife from Zurich. 
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24.01.2019, 11:57
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| | | Re: How far can a company go in harrasing employees in Switzerland
| Quote: | | | | | No need for threatening. You could just approach the press, Beobachter etc. directly.  | | | | | and unless you have very specific cast iron proof of any wrong doings, that will 100% no doubt stand up in court, the press wouldn't touch you with a barge pole, legal cases are way too expensive, and besides news like that doesn't sell papers, unless the CEO is shagging some contestant of love island.
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24.01.2019, 12:03
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| | | Re: How far can a company go in harrasing employees in Switzerland
| Quote: | | | | | Except that technically I am Swiss from St. Gallen. | | | | | technically being the key word here | | The following 2 users would like to thank Clocker for this useful post: | |
24.01.2019, 12:07
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| | | Re: How far can a company go in harrasing employees in Switzerland
| Quote: | | | | | Except that technically I am Swiss from St. Gallen.
And my wife from Zurich.
Tom | | | | | I know, all your stories are technically complicated. Same as OP's, apparently.
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24.01.2019, 12:07
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| | | Re: How far can a company go in harrasing employees in Switzerland
| Quote: | | | | | SR 311.0 - Edition Optobyte AG
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So to threaten to go to the press, or Beobachter or so......will most likely land you in very very hot legal waters...... | | | | |  Why not use the translation by the Swiss Government itself? https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a180 | Quote: |  | | | Art. 180 Threatening behaviour
Threatening behaviour
1 Any person who places another in a state of fear and alarm by making a serious threat is liable on complaint to a custodial sentence not exceeding three years or to a monetary penalty.
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Art. 181 Coercion
Coercion
Any person who, by the use of force or the threat of serious detriment or other restriction of another's freedom to act compels another to carry out an act, to fail to carry out an act or to tolerate an act, is liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding three years or to a monetary penalty. | | | | |
Threatening to go to the press is not a "serious threat". But it can be coercion. https://www.ombudsman-touristik.ch/f...mit_Medien.pdf
A smart way is to mention that you will get legal counsel from the Beobachter, K-tipp etc. or just simply do it with out mentioning it.
Important is that a fine will only lead to a criminal record entry if the fine is more than CHF 5000, a monetary penalty which is income depended on the other hand will always lead to a criminal record entry!
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24.01.2019, 12:18
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| | | Re: How far can a company go in harrasing employees in Switzerland
| Quote: | | | | | Why not use the translation by the Swiss Government itself?
https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a180
Threatening to go to the press is not a "serious threat". But it can be coercion. https://www.ombudsman-touristik.ch/f...mit_Medien.pdf
A smart way is to mention that you will get legal counsel from the Beobachter, K-tipp etc. or just simply do it with out mentioning it.
Important is that a fine will only lead to a criminal record entry if the fine is more than CHF 5000, a monetary penalty which is income depended on the other hand will always lead to a criminal record entry! | | | | | You beat me to it.
Re press you do not theraten, you just do it.
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24.01.2019, 12:20
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| | | Re: How far can a company go in harrasing employees in Switzerland
| Quote: | | | | | and unless you have very specific cast iron proof of any wrong doings, that will 100% no doubt stand up in court, the press wouldn't touch you with a barge pole, legal cases are way too expensive, and besides news like that doesn't sell papers, unless the CEO is shagging some contestant of love island. | | | | |
Nice!
So given that my boss completely shagged me with my bonus, I only need to go to a love island before I take the whole thing to the press.
Thanks for the tip!!11!
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24.01.2019, 12:30
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| | | Re: How far can a company go in harrasing employees in Switzerland
| Quote: | | | | | and unless you have very specific cast iron proof of any wrong doings, that will 100% no doubt stand up in court, the press wouldn't touch you with a barge pole, legal cases are way too expensive, and besides news like that doesn't sell papers, unless the CEO is shagging some contestant of love island. | | | | | Well, the press, as in NZZ for sure… but isnt that what InsideParadeplatz and the like are for? Wild accusations with little proof… but therefore mixed with some heavy bias from a failed journalist.
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