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Old 09.02.2019, 11:47
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

Do NOT involve HR at any of this.


AS others said, just find another job and quit. Don't understand what else you think is there for you, seriously. Grow up, you made a bad call accepting a bullshit job when it was clear in the interview the guy is a liar. OWN IT. Learn from it and move on.
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

Susie-Q, as other posters have pointed out, the key thing to keep in mind is that sectors of the Swiss labor market tend to be 'small worlds'. Maintaining a good reputation, not matter how justified you feel your discontent may be, is important. If you want to look for a better role here, be careful not to burn any bridges at your current company.

I think we can all understand the frustration when the job turns out different than expectations. Nonetheless, eyes on the prize. Keep professional, keep doing the job and do it well, no matter how tempting it might be to vent with other colleagues, don't disparage your boss or show that you think the work is beneath you.

And keep looking for a better fit - you are a more attractive candidate when still employed. Then when you find a better role, leave on good terms. I'll say it again: Switzerland is a very small world.

I wish you all the best and hope you find a role you can enjoy.
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Old 09.02.2019, 12:24
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

In general there are two situations, either the HR + management or the team makes the hiring decision.

Whilst in the first model new employees often find themselves wrongly placed, in the second model the team doesn't improve. When HR make the hiring decision, it may be because they don't understand whom they should hire or maybe they are actually hiring someone better than the actual team level, but most of the time it's the first cause even if HR think it's the second one (i.e. they think they are hiring a bar raiser whilst hiring an amateur with 'outstanding-looking cv') ;-) I've been also participating in the second model but I can't recommend it either. Many really good candidates were turned down because of the ego's of the current team members.
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Old 09.02.2019, 16:56
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Old 09.02.2019, 18:27
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

Not to mention you failed to think of your family as well by bringing them all here under such a fishy job and interview. Completely lazy, responsible people come first and check the place and life while on notice period and if everything checks out find a flat and uproot the family. You have now everyone trapped here because of your choices.



People try to help you and you groan everyone's post, you seem to have a very low maturity level and will be easily taken advantage of here if you keep this up.
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you seem to have a very low maturity level
or being under enormous pressure, cannot think clearly because of stres or/and anger and seek an anonymous group to talk to
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Old 09.02.2019, 19:15
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Yes I would like to, but I would get a penalty with the RAV correct? I can't afford to quit and not get a salary each month due to current high living expenses.
Yes, so like any of us (Swiss or non-Swiss) you need to stick-it out.
It's not a good idea to resign from a position before you have another lined-up. General rule-of-thumb.

Not only because of the RAV consequences, but also how you come-over in your applications for the next position.

So, stick-it-out until you find something new, and practice the art of diplomacy in the meantime to ensure you receive a good reference. Have done this a couple of times, but when you have your family in your mind you can bear all sh?t for a while.

You've mentioned that you've moved across Switzerland for this position, and have no idea how this impacts any work permit restrictions etc.

Good luck!
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Old 09.02.2019, 19:23
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Strangely, in one company I worked, the employees were very strict about what was within their defined job description. Anything that was out, they refused to do (or demanded a change in their job description with associated pay increase)
This is also what I was used to up until about 15 years ago in CH.
In the meantime, the job description has become of no worth, at least in the middle earning category.

New hype has been "flexibility" since a while, and anyone not up to that is out.
At least in the banking World.
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Old 09.02.2019, 19:33
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Not to mention you failed to think of your family as well by bringing them all here under such a fishy job and interview. Completely lazy, responsible people come first and check the place and life while on notice period and if everything checks out find a flat and uproot the family. You have now everyone trapped here because of your choices.



People try to help you and you groan everyone's post, you seem to have a very low maturity level and will be easily taken advantage of here if you keep this up.
The OP did state that they moved the family across country, so assume CH.
No idea of work permit status, nationality, time of being in CH etc.
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Old 09.02.2019, 19:37
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

C Permit, married to a Swiss, lived here 10 years

Troublawesome clearly has issues, get some help mate! You insult people looking for advice in a difficult situation, learn to take a groan as a consequence. From the looks of it, you should be used to it by now.

Grow up, OWN IT
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Old 09.02.2019, 21:32
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C Permit, married to a Swiss, lived here 10 years

Troublawesome clearly has issues, get some help mate! You insult people looking for advice in a difficult situation, learn to take a groan as a consequence. From the looks of it, you should be used to it by now.

Grow up, OWN IT



We know, he has 3 red blobs



You only have 2..........so far
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

To find a better job than the one you have, start by being excellent at whatever you now do (deliver what was asked and more, on time, and take initiative), and be friendly to all those with whom you come into contact (team, colleagues in other departments, suppliers, customers, caterers, cleaners), so that at least some of these people will wish you worked with them. In this way, your reputation will precede you, and someone in a different sector of the company, or outside the company, may open a door for you.
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You are happy with your salary and title in a job that requires minimal effort. I'm not seeing the problem here, TBH...

Use the excess creative capacity to expand your skill set and/or search for another job. Until then, eight and the gate. Pick up a hobby.
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Susie-Q, as other posters have pointed out, the key thing to keep in mind is that sectors of the Swiss labor market tend to be 'small worlds'. Maintaining a good reputation, not matter how justified you feel your discontent may be, is important. If you want to look for a better role here, be careful not to burn any bridges at your current company.

I think we can all understand the frustration when the job turns out different than expectations. Nonetheless, eyes on the prize. Keep professional, keep doing the job and do it well, no matter how tempting it might be to vent with other colleagues, don't disparage your boss or show that you think the work is beneath you.

And keep looking for a better fit - you are a more attractive candidate when still employed. Then when you find a better role, leave on good terms. I'll say it again: Switzerland is a very small world.

I wish you all the best and hope you find a role you can enjoy.
Like life, filter through all the replies and pick out the really helpful ones while ignoring the negative ones. I've chosen two that I thought were quite insightful for you.

Good luck!
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Old 10.02.2019, 13:48
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We know, he has 3 red blobs



You only have 2..........so far
She has three now.

Imagine, me backing up TA, what is EF coming to?

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She has three now.

Imagine, me backing up TA, what is EF coming to?

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... and even we agreee occasionally!

Perhaps we're just growing old.
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Old 11.02.2019, 11:34
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... and even we agreee occasionally!

Perhaps we're just growing old.

Is this within your job responsibilities ?
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