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Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

Gutentag,

It has been awhile since I have come here on the forum, wanted to seek advice about an unfortunate situation I am now in.

I was recently hired into a new company. When I applied for the job, the job description changed from the original job board posting to the job interview. During the interview, I expressed my concern as I was now overqualified for the role. The hiring manager agreed, and I departed thinking I would not get a call back. I received a call back for a second interview, during this time they promised that any work that I was overqualified for would be minimal, and that they would re-adapt the position in accordance to my qualifications. An offer was made, I was happy with the assigned responsibilities and my salary and I accepted it. (Unfortunately the responsibilities were only given verbally and I never actually received a job description.)

I made the move with my family across Switzerland and have now been in my job for a few months. The promise that was made to me turned out not to be true, instead I am in a job in which I am entirely overqualified for and I am bored out of my mind. I have since learned from other colleagues that it was highly recommended not to hire me for this reason, and my boss "is not to be trusted, a bullshitter, and insisted on hiring me anyway".

I am actively looking for new roles, I live centrally in Switzerland and can find work in a variety of cities. Until this happens, what can you recommend that I do? I find this to be hurtful to my career and I am also going completely mad with boredom and feel regularly insulted when ordered around to do work that is not within the lines of a career I've worked hard to build.

I've already spoken to my boss several times, and have just been brushed off and made promises I know he is incapable of keeping. Can I take this up with HR? What do you recommend? Danke
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Old 08.02.2019, 16:42
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

By all means, but keep in mind the likely result will be you leaving, rather than them finding you work more suited to your qualifications.

My experience? Never believe what is said, only what has been written.
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Old 08.02.2019, 16:52
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

Can I ask them to fire me? I can't afford to quit sadly...I am worried about becoming highly combative at one point and it may happen on its own. hehe
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Old 08.02.2019, 16:55
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

Strangely, in one company I worked, the employees were very strict about what was within their defined job description. Anything that was out, they refused to do (or demanded a change in their job description with associated pay increase). If you have already defined what you will or will not do, then maybe you can be strict and say 'no' to the tasks you agreed not to do.

On another note, I applied for a job once and when I arrived on my first day, was told that things had changed and I was to do a different job!
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

Just suck it up till you find another job.
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If you have already defined what you will or will not do, then maybe you can be strict and say 'no' to the tasks you agreed not to do.
I've already done this a few times To be honest, my colleagues are very understanding of the situation and feel awful, everyone except my boss...
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

If I was you, would leave during my trial period and put it behind me if talk fails with the employer.

It can often be in CH however, that a company might see the position as a good challenge. Or you might be under-estimating the challenge, or over-estimating your experience.

The benchmark varies from country to country, from company to company, and from company division to company division.

You need to have discussions with your company, which you've already tried. I wouldn't go to HR as they of course have the foot on both boots, and it could affect your employment record at that company. Which area are you in btw: could make a difference
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Just suck it up till you find another job.
I am trying...but it is becoming increasingly more difficult.
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Old 08.02.2019, 17:22
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If I was you, would leave during my trial period and put it behind me if talk fails with the employer.
Yes I would like to, but I would get a penalty with the RAV correct? I can't afford to quit and not get a salary each month due to current high living expenses.
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Old 08.02.2019, 17:24
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I am trying...but it is becoming increasingly more difficult.

And correspondingly so to find a new job probably !


It is, or seems, far easier to find a new job when you have a job than when you don't, it also puts you in a far better negotiating position for a new job if you already employed.


As EdwinNL so correctly says, suck it up and find a new job !


Get looking now is the next piece of advice !!
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

If you actually read my first post, you will see that I have been...constantly.
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Re: Misled by hiring manager about my new job responsibilities

You are happy with your salary and title in a job that requires minimal effort. I'm not seeing the problem here, TBH...

Use the excess creative capacity to expand your skill set and/or search for another job. Until then, eight and the gate. Pick up a hobby.
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You are happy with your salary and title in a job that requires minimal effort. I'm not seeing the problem here, TBH...

Use the excess creative capacity to expand your skill set and/or search for another job. Until then, eight and the gate. Pick up a hobby.
Jumping to such conclusion when one says I'm doing a job for which I'm overqualified is interesting way of thinking For me climbing the career ladder means easier job! I would be really stressed and frustrated to do the tedious mundane work which newbie software engineers do. I would rather agree to lower salary than to 'lower' responsibility.

But staying on the topic, OP is it really such hard to stay on the job temporarily or is it your crushed ego which bugs you? Let it go, don't think about your decision, it's done. Smile, look forward to make best of your time and keep looking for a suitable job.
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What is the nature of the work? Is it not possible to get involved in projects more in your line and quietly step sideways?
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“You are happy with your salary and title in a job that requires minimal effort. I'm not seeing the problem here, TBH...

Use the excess creative capacity to expand your skill set and/or search for another job. Until then, eight and the gate. Pick up a hobby”

Easier said than done.

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Yes I would like to, but I would get a penalty with the RAV correct? I can't afford to quit and not get a salary each month due to current high living expenses.
You REALLY need to reduce your expenses then if you've no savings at all & can't build them up with your current spending.. It's common sense that ANYTHING can go wrong, and you absolutely need to have some funds for a rainy period. Getting fired and possible needing some time to find a new job is absolutely normal in Switzerland.

Most (if not all) other Swiss people I know have quite substantial savings (unless you're really on a low salary, say, below 60k/year) & it's considered normal to save up, besides the mandatory 1st and 2nd pillar to add extra funds into the tax-optimized 3rd pillar, to pay extra money into the 2nd pillar AND have a separate saving account.

Being financially tight (in Switzerland) is definitely a bad idea. While you can hide it, of course, chance is something goes wrong and you can no longer run from it.
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You are taken my comment a little too seriously mate. I have savings and I prefer not to waste them on my shattered ego just because I can’t suck it up and do a job that is beneath me so to say...

I’ve recently moved for this job and had to pay rent in two places for awhile, moving is expensive. Tax bill is due too.
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You are taken my comment a little too seriously mate. I have savings and I prefer not to waste them on my shattered ego just because I can’t suck it up and do a job that is beneath me so to say...

I’ve recently moved for this job and had to pay rent in two places for awhile, moving is expensive. Tax bill is due too.
Perfectly reasonable, but I guess it's too hard to guess why did you make the post. Are you looking for any advice, maybe some cheer up or maybe just wanted to flush your frustration to help you in this difficult period? so don't be surprised you get so different replies

A piece of advice: seriously look for another job and don't behave like a shmuck at your current job or leave it immediately. People will remember you, and will judge you forever based on how you performed your duties. No one of these "understanding colleagues" will vouch for you in the future if you keep hanging around like a shmuck, but they may be your most valuable contacts in the future, like being another Amazon founders, etc. Yes you made a mistake but can't you handle it professionally? State clearly that it is a mistake (as you already did) but do your due diligence for the actual job or leave it! I don't tell you to quit, the choice is yours, again

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You are taken my comment a little too seriously mate. I have savings and I prefer not to waste them on my shattered ego just because I can’t suck it up and do a job that is beneath me so to say...

I’ve recently moved for this job and had to pay rent in two places for awhile, moving is expensive. Tax bill is due too.
Oh dear, poor you.

Honestly, get over yourself. If having to continue being overpaid to do a more menial job than you expected while you plan your next career move is the worse thing that's happened to you you're not gonna get much sympathy from anyone living in the real world.

You won't get much from RAV anyway if you've only been here a short while, so as produit advised you should just put up with it until you find something better.
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Ace-1 Where are you getting it’s the worst thing to happen to me? Sure are a lot of jumpy people quick to judge on this page. You know nothing about me.

Gramatyka - I would never not do my job, and I ain’t no schmuck either.
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