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Old 15.10.2019, 16:33
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Yeah, I saw. There are quite a few local French speakers who fail the entrance exams. Just sayin'.
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Yeah, I saw. There are quite a few local French speakers who fail the entrance exams. Just sayin'.
Entrance exams for apprenticeships?

They don't have them around here!

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Old 15.10.2019, 16:38
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They don't have them around here!

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That's what I am saying. She's in GE.

Tom, from Ticino!
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Old 15.10.2019, 19:48
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Re: What are my chances of finding a job in Switzerland?

Have you thought about a role as an admin assistant , this is a foot in the door if it was with one of the big companies where the standard language is often English
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Have you thought about a role as an admin assistant , this is a foot in the door if it was with one of the big companies where the standard language is often English

And where they have a choice of candidates bi or tri lingual.


Wherever you work in Switzerland, the language at the coffee machine is local and it is this that gives the pulse of a company.


Without local language you are well down the food chain, unless you are on the board of directors
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Old 15.10.2019, 20:13
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Re: What are my chances of finding a job in Switzerland?

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And where they have a choice of candidates bi or tri lingual.

Wherever you work in Switzerland, the language at the coffee machine is local and it is this that gives the pulse of a company.

Without local language you are well down the food chain, unless you are on the board of directors
OP is trilingual - she speaks French, English and Spanish. She also lives in Geneva. I'd say that gives her far better odds than speaking those languages and living in Zurich.
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OP is trilingual - she speaks French, English and Spanish. She also lives in Geneva. I'd say that gives her far better odds than speaking those languages and living in Zurich.

Yes, but i was answering the previous post from Joolie, suggesting if you spoke only English, everything would be fine and there were opportunities galore
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Re: What are my chances of finding a job in Switzerland?

I have a close friend who was a Spanish teacher in the US, and was hired here to work at an International School filled with various ex-pats/wealthy immigrants. It can happen! You could also work full time as a language teacher, many people in Switzerland want to learn Spanish or English.

I had a background in marketing in the performing arts prior to moving here with my husband. The key is finding a international corporation to hire you in order to get that first experience. Corporations care less about certificates etc. and can see beyond the Swiss standard. Do I miss my previous pre-Swiss career and sometimes hate the corporate life? Very much so, yes. But I don't miss the lousy salary and have learned to utilise my generous income in having a fulfilling life outside of work.

Good luck! Don't give up.
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Re: What are my chances of finding a job in Switzerland?

Thank you so much for your reply.

Thank you, everyone, as well. I didn't get new notifications of the other answers so I just saw all of your messages

You've all given me some good advice
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The struggle of finding a life science-related job

Dear all,


I came here to look for an advice.



I have a molecular biology/cancer research PhD from a swiss uni, a master degree from Business Administration, some experience in marketing and some experience in a biotech company.


I think I have a pretty good CV in general compared to my uni-mates. However, I cannot score one single offer from any of the pharma/biotech companies.


I did a lot of networking, I attented conferences and spoken to people within those companies.



I start to think it was a bad idea to study in CH, since most of the people I have spoken to kickoffed their careers in their home countries (easier entry?) and moved to CH afterwards.



If any of you work in the pharma industry and have time to screen my CV and give me some advice, I would be grateful.


Plus, if there are some other possibilities I should still explore, leave a comment down below



Thank you for your time!
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Re: The struggle of finding a life science-related job

Besides English, do you also speak a Swiss language?
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Old 23.11.2019, 15:37
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Re: The struggle of finding a life science-related job

Highly-qualified job seekers, who are registered with RAV and as agreed with the RAV adviser, can apply for project positions under the BNF program. For more details, see these links:

Overview:
https://www.bnf.unibe.ch/index_eng.html

Current list of projects:
https://www.bnf.unibe.ch/unibe/porta...-20-42_ger.pdf
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Re: The struggle of finding a life science-related job

Yes, I do speak limited business german (B2) and I already have the BNF experience. Maybe I should try a second one.



Thank you!
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Re: The struggle of finding a life science-related job

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Dear all,


I came here to look for an advice.



I have a molecular biology/cancer research PhD from a swiss uni, a master degree from Business Administration, some experience in marketing and some experience in a biotech company.


I think I have a pretty good CV in general compared to my uni-mates. However, I cannot score one single offer from any of the pharma/biotech companies.


I did a lot of networking, I attented conferences and spoken to people within those companies.



I start to think it was a bad idea to study in CH, since most of the people I have spoken to kickoffed their careers in their home countries (easier entry?) and moved to CH afterwards.



If any of you work in the pharma industry and have time to screen my CV and give me some advice, I would be grateful.


Plus, if there are some other possibilities I should still explore, leave a comment down below



Thank you for your time!
Are you EU or non-EU? You need to consider getting a job in Switzerland for non-EU is hard. I am lucky in this regard.

Also, getting a job in industry normally needs resume, not CV. I assume you know the difference and know how to make you stand out by the right resume.

Good luck!
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Old 26.11.2019, 09:28
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Re: The struggle of finding a life science-related job

Yes, it's hard to find a job. Non-EU citizen here with natural science PhD from UNINE

A bit of expectations management may help. Sending 30 times your CV is normal. Several interviews and leaving without an offer is normal. My application was explicitly rejected 3 times with a thank you letter. For the other 20+ applications I didn't get a simple reply, nothing. It took 6 months since the day I started to look for a job until the day I signed a contract. So, keep trying.

But, I got good advice at the time and started my job hunt 6 months before the thesis defense. Also, as Doropfiz mentioned above, it helps a lot to learn one of the Swiss national languages. 4 years was enough to master French at the doing business level.

The competition in large cities is significant. You may expand your search beyond Basel & Zürich. There are pharma companies in almost all cantons.
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Re: The struggle of finding a life science-related job

Struggling here too. The real downer is after months of tailoring your CV and cover letter to the job description - and still getting the generic 'although your qualifications are very impressive, we're moving forward with people with a better fit'.

It's almost to the point where the CL/CV is cut and paste, and an identical copy of what they post their looking for (of course with examples, and success stories).

Or when they give the same line, then a few weeks later you see the same job posted again.
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It is difficult to underestimate the importance of networking to find a job in Switzerland. According to this document, 70% of all job openings are not published, although the percentages vary widely depending on the industry (German):

https://awa.zh.ch/content/dam/volksw...4-2017_4-6.pdf
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If any of you work in the pharma industry and have time to screen my CV and give me some advice, I would be grateful.


Plus, if there are some other possibilities I should still explore, leave a comment down below



Thank you for your time!
I'm sure you'd be a great addition, as-is. The only problem is to get your foot in the door.

Have you registered with any temporary job agencies like Altran or Kelly? There are loads and Pharma in CH these days is sensitive to add new headcount, esp at lower levels. Why? They're moving jobs to their lower cost sites across Europe.

Perhaps the best way in is through a temp contract and once they know you and there's an opening, you should be first in the cue.

All the best!!!
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Re: The struggle of finding a life science-related job

At least big pharma doesnt' require a local language for most jobs.

Most big companies have outsourced "recruiting". Meaning there's either some algorithm in God-knows-where or a person who cannot possibly have an idea of actual requirements is pre-screening your CV. You're missing some buzzword or other - and voilà, get some generic response. That is if you get one at all.

(I once applied for another job internally, got that job, yet received an automatic rejection 9 weeks after I've started in said job. Morons).

It's nigh impossible to circumvent this type of sh* as outlined above, unless you know someone and even then they often push you through these ridiculous processes. One day they'll realize what damage this does, but I digress.

Beyond that, much entry-level stuff has been (temporarily) offshored. Give it a few months, it will come back.

Not sure what jobs you're looking at, but if it's anything Marketing-related, then you're massively better off starting at country-level.

Question is: how far do you branch out? Assuming you've mainly looked at big pharma, it's generally recommendable to consider some alternatives. Beyond that, contrary to many countries, Switzerland has a high-skilled but slow labor market and it's fairly normal to look for a job for 6-12 months and with dozens and dozens of applications even if very qualified.
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Re: The struggle of finding a life science-related job

Although I am not in the pharmaceutic field, I fully understand the frustration as I am a recent PhD graduate (materials science) looking for a job. I am just sharing my experience here and hopefully it could help you a bit. At least you can see you are not the only one facing difficulties

I sent out 120 applications during the past 7 months and received 1 offer very recently. At the beginning of my job search I could never imagine I would reach this amount, as I was thinking that I could just focus on the "very matching" positions. But soon I realized it is really a number game.

Have you considered other countries? Have you looked at start-ups or engineering consulting firms here in Switzerland? I certainly suggest you to loosen a bit your criteria and widen your applications if you haven't done so. This could increase the chance for getting an interview, which is very important for one to still believe in one's competence!

Getting in contact with recruitment agencies (company such as universal-job, Kelly) is also a good idea. There's no guarantee but at least you open another door to let people see your profile. I found it very interesting to connect with these recruiters on LinkedIn, since you will sometimes see they "like" or even share job openings from their networks (other recruiters).

Meanwhile keep networking, I assume you have been doing this well. What I have done is: attending job fairs, connecting people on LinkedIn, visiting career center at my institute, contacting alumni. I really got great help from former group members and even from those older generations which I had never met during my entire PhD period.

Good luck !!!!!
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