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Salary Expectation, Senior Scientist

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I've worked over 5 year in biopharma industry, currently living in germany. I'm in contact with a small biopharma company in Eysins for a senior scientist position. I've searched a lot in web to find clear information about the salary range for such a position.
Could you please advice me how much I shoud expect?
also if anyone has a similar experience would you leave a job with 85k euro in germany for abovementioned job offer?


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Hello everyone,


I've worked over 5 year in biopharma industry, currently living in germany. I'm in contact with a small biopharma company in Eysins for a senior scientist position. I've searched a lot in web to find clear information about the salary range for such a position.
Could you please advice me how much I shoud expect?
also if anyone has a similar experience would you leave a job with 85k euro in germany for abovementioned job offer?


thank you very much for your kind answers!
It's hard to advise you whether we'd leave a job "somewhere" in Germany where you earn 85k, in order to live in Eysins for "X" money. More information provides clearer answers for living costs and how the places relate.
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Re: Salary Expectation, Senior Scientist

124230.63chf



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Hello everyone,


I've worked over 5 year in biopharma industry, currently living in germany. I'm in contact with a small biopharma company in Eysins for a senior scientist position. I've searched a lot in web to find clear information about the salary range for such a position.
Could you please advice me how much I shoud expect?
also if anyone has a similar experience would you leave a job with 85k euro in germany for abovementioned job offer?


thank you very much for your kind answers!
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Re: Salary Expectation, Senior Scientist

The living costs in my place in Germany is around 1300 € for everything. About living costs in Eysins have no idea!
Also about the expected salary in the biopharma company in Eysins I really don't know how much should I ask. But for almost the same position and the same education and experiences my friend has a job in Basel with 150k.
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The living costs in my place in Germany is around 1300 € for everything. About living costs in Eysins have no idea!
Also about the expected salary in the biopharma company in Eysins I really don't know how much should I ask. But for almost the same position and the same education and experiences my friend has a job in Basel with 150k.
Eysins is basically Nyon. Cost of living is high.
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124230.63chf



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Thank you for reply, How you calculated that number?
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Thank you for reply, How you calculated that number?
He didn't.
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Old 21.03.2019, 12:36
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The living costs in my place in Germany is around 1300 € for everything. About living costs in Eysins have no idea!
Also about the expected salary in the biopharma company in Eysins I really don't know how much should I ask. But for almost the same position and the same education and experiences my friend has a job in Basel with 150k.
My appartment in Eysins will be available end of June, you could walk to your job in about 26 seconds
Although it's a lovely little village, I'm afraid 1300 € is not gonna let you stay there.


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Eysins is basically Nyon. Cost of living is high.
The upside is that prices have really dropped in the last five years, I'd say that a nice 3 bedroom appartment is now 1000chf less per month.
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My appartment in Eysins will be available end of June, you could walk to your job in about 26 seconds
Although it's a lovely little village, I'm afraid 1300 € is not gonna let you stay there.




The upside is that prices have really dropped in the last five years, I'd say that a nice 3 bedroom appartment is now 1000chf less per month.
Might still be a shocker for somebody used to German rents.

Aren't you busy with bushes?
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Well trimmed and ready for summer
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Re: Salary Expectation, Senior Scientist

Let's let this scientist get on with their research..
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Re: Salary Expectation, Senior Scientist

Thank you for all your replies.
Still I haven't got my answer. Let me explain the situation with more details.
In my current job I earn 85k means ~40k net I can save a year.
So how much I should earn in Eysins which left me more saving and makes sense to move to Switzerland.
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Thank you for all your replies.
Still I haven't got my answer. Let me explain the situation with more details.
In my current job I earn 85k means ~40k net I can save a year.
So how much I should earn in Eysins which left me more saving and makes sense to move to Switzerland.
Try searching the forum. Your question has been answered a 1,000 times. You’re not exactly showing awesome research skills for a scientist! Christ you even have a friend in Basel you can ask.

And why is everybody obsessed with coming to Switzerland to live like a hermit and save as much money as possible?!?
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Old 21.03.2019, 21:38
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Thank you for all your replies.
Still I haven't got my answer. Let me explain the situation with more details.
In my current job I earn 85k means ~40k net I can save a year.
So how much I should earn in Eysins which left me more saving and makes sense to move to Switzerland.
You can easily earn 85k in Eysins and save 40k .. You will however need to make some lifestyle adjustments...

You provide no details details of what you expect - look online, look at accommodation in the area, do you want a room in a shared flat for 700.- month? Or a house at 6k month? Big car - or a bike? Eat out or eat pasta? Just one of you or a big family? Variables!!

My place is 3700.- in Eysins, 3 bedroom, big garden.. It's not the cheapest village. I can see 10 houses/appartments advertised in Eysins now.

Research research research.. All in the info is online.
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Thank you for all your replies.
Still I haven't got my answer. Let me explain the situation with more details.
In my current job I earn 85k means ~40k net I can save a year.
So how much I should earn in Eysins which left me more saving and makes sense to move to Switzerland.
Are you single? if yes, let us say you are extremely frugal and spend 3800 CHF a month (it will be very tight).

3800 x 12 = 45600 chf yearly spending.

To save 40k Euro = 45 K CHF, you would need to make around 90K netto in a year. I don't know the taxes in the area but I guess it would have be around 115-120K gross annual income if you are extremely frugal.
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Re: Salary Expectation, Senior Scientist

For a senior scientist position in pharma you are looking at 150K + ~25K bonus easily. Pharma companies in Switzerland have a hard time filling scientist positions in general. Plenty of room for salary negotiation, especially if your skill set matches the position well.
The most important question I would be asking myself is: "Do I want to live in one of the most boring countries in Europe that has a high prevalence of mental disease, loneliness and a strong anti-foreigner/anti-German sentiment?"
Good luck!
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For a senior scientist position in pharma you are looking at 150K + ~25K bonus easily. Pharma companies in Switzerland have a hard time filling scientist positions in general. Plenty of room for salary negotiation, especially if your skill set matches the position well.
The most important question I would be asking myself is: "Do I want to live in one of the most boring countries in Europe that has a high prevalence of mental disease, loneliness and a strong anti-foreigner/anti-German sentiment?"
Good luck!

I think that is too much, but I think 100-120k is more realistic.
there isn't that much of a problem for scientist position; bigger problem are technician position.
other things in the post I will not comment.....
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No way is big pharma paying 150+20%.
100-120 maybe.
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would you leave a job with 85k euro in germany
You can make a reasonable living in Zurich with 85k CHF and still save something (if you have no kids) so 85k Euro in Germany looks damn good to me (same number but much lower cost of living AFAIK).

I don't know if 100k CHF would be a reasonable equivalent, probably not; maybe 120k, but just maybe. 100k CHF is good, probably above average, but not "damn good" or so good that you can easily save 40k per year (if that is your goal).

Does it have to be perfectly equivalent? Can you live with 100k, save 40k and still enjoy life? Well, that depends on you... you will change both job and country, maybe you don't have to do everything the exact same way you were used to

My point is that your current situation looks quite a good one... think twice.
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Thank you for all your replies.
Still I haven't got my answer. Let me explain the situation with more details.
In my current job I earn 85k means ~40k net I can save a year.
So how much I should earn in Eysins which left me more saving and makes sense to move to Switzerland.
40k EUR, as a single I was able to save such having 134k chf
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