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Quitting job due to long commute and maternity

Hi all,

I have been reading all similar forum posts, but I didn't find one that quite covers my questions.

I commute 4 hours door to door every day and now I am pregnant. My employer gives me 14 weeks maternity leave and then I have to come back 100%, no unpaid leave, no part-time, nothing. As I live so far away, Zürich, I want to search for a new job after maternity leave so I am more flexible for my kid, and not 2 hours away. But I am afraid the RAV won't support me - I work in marketing and it can take time to get a new job in English, in Zürich. Someone told me with a child under 25 years old and a long commute, they are nicer and give you a shorter penalty. Even if you quit yourself. Anyone here can confirm this? The grandparents of the baby will be around to support while I search for a job after the leave, when needed.

Thanks all. I lived here 4 years, worked for 3 of them, soon married to a Swiss national and soon with a half Swiss baby.
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Old 15.05.2019, 14:12
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Re: Quitting job due to long commute and maternity

You'll probably still have a penalty from the RAV but maybe they'll keep it to a minimum.

Start right now looking for a new job, get everything updated (CV, LinkedIn, get in touch with recruiters, etc). Keep everything, even stuff like evidence of meetings with associates for networking, etc. and present to the RAV. It's super-important that they know you are looking for work.
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You'll probably still have a penalty from the RAV but maybe they'll keep it to a minimum.

Start right now looking for a new job, get everything updated (CV, LinkedIn, get in touch with recruiters, etc). Keep everything, even stuff like evidence of meetings with associates for networking, etc. and present to the RAV. It's super-important that they know you are looking for work.
Great, I hope so too as my situation is a bit complicated, would have loved to continue my job. I love it. But it won't work.

When should I register at the RAV? Most companies won't accept applications for starting a job in February 2020 already now - and during maternity leave I plan to focus on keeping my baby and myself alive.
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Errm... have you considered moving closer to work?


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Re: Quitting job due to long commute and maternity

And keep in mind that the RAV thinks a one way drive to work of 2 hours acceptable.......
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Re: Quitting job due to long commute and maternity

Do you know that you can job-seek for a part-time position and then only get part-time RAV. there is a limit and the money will obviously be much smaller.


However, until the baby has actually arrived and everything is in place, it would not be recommended to quit your job...
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Hi all,

I have been reading all similar forum posts, but I didn't find one that quite covers my questions.

I commute 4 hours door to door every day and now I am pregnant. My employer gives me 14 weeks maternity leave and then I have to come back 100%, no unpaid leave, no part-time, nothing. As I live so far away, Zürich, I want to search for a new job after maternity leave so I am more flexible for my kid, and not 2 hours away. But I am afraid the RAV won't support me - I work in marketing and it can take time to get a new job in English, in Zürich. Someone told me with a child under 25 years old and a long commute, they are nicer and give you a shorter penalty. Even if you quit yourself. Anyone here can confirm this? The grandparents of the baby will be around to support while I search for a job after the leave, when needed.

Thanks all. I lived here 4 years, worked for 3 of them, soon married to a Swiss national and soon with a half Swiss baby.
Dont go back to work. Be with your child at home for a few years.Or maybe 10-20 % part time and your new Swiss husband 80%
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And keep in mind that the RAV thinks a one way drive to work of 2 hours acceptable.......
But they also take the whole situation into account...

During pregnancy 4 hour commute is still o.k.
https://www.blick.ch/life/job/schwan...-id155390.html

After pregnancy 13 hours (4 hour commute, 8 hours working, 0.5 hour lunch break, 2 x 0.25 hours coffee break) away from a baby which has to be nursed might be too much. Might. You never know how the RAV decides.
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But they also take the whole situation into account...

During pregnancy 4 hour commute is still o.k.
https://www.blick.ch/life/job/schwan...-id155390.html

After pregnancy 13 hours (4 hour commute, 8 hours working, 0.5 hour lunch break, 2 x 0.25 hours coffee break) away from a baby which has to be nursed might be too much. Might. You never know how the RAV decides.
Thats no life!
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Old 15.05.2019, 21:50
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And keep in mind that the RAV thinks a one way drive to work of 2 hours acceptable.......
Actually, two hours via public transportation, NOT driving.

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Errm... have you considered moving closer to work?

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I wrote that due to my boyfriends work that's not an option, plus I would be all alone in Basel and in zurich I have a huge network...

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But they also take the whole situation into account...

During pregnancy 4 hour commute is still o.k.
https://www.blick.ch/life/job/schwan...-id155390.html

After pregnancy 13 hours (4 hour commute, 8 hours working, 0.5 hour lunch break, 2 x 0.25 hours coffee break) away from a baby which has to be nursed might be too much. Might. You never know how the RAV decides.
Well I dont need money right away, I just want to make sure I get it eventually - I'm more curious what is the max penalty for quitting.

Thanks all. I appreciate your answers and support!

I'm not looking to abuse the system, I just want what is best for me and my baby. My job also requires me to go on 50% business travels, which includes 2 weeks in US 5 times a year. It has been amazing and Iove the job, but with a baby at home, I don't see this working really well. I will get a new job, in Zürich. Just planning how much money I need to save until RAV decided to support me. 4 hours commuting a day is not OK, it's exhausting and no time for a private life. Until now it was fine, as I needed the experience.

What is the max RAV can give penalty with a small child at home? 3 months?

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I wrote that due to my boyfriends work that's not an option, plus I would be all alone in Basel and in zurich I have a huge network...



Great, so work using modern communications and visit Zurich maybe 1 or 2 times per week.


Your child is far more important than some 2 bit job
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Thanks all. I appreciate your answers and support!

I'm not looking to abuse the system, I just want what is best for me and my baby. My job also requires me to go on 50% business travels, which includes 2 weeks in US 5 times a year. It has been amazing and Iove the job, but with a baby at home, I don't see this working really well. I will get a new job, in Zürich. Just planning how much money I need to save until RAV decided to support me. 4 hours commuting a day is not OK, it's exhausting and no time for a private life. Until now it was fine, as I needed the experience.

What is the max RAV can give penalty with a small child at home? 3 months?
So whats the problem. Stay at home for a year then get maybe a part time job. Share the load with your Swiss husband. Husband works?
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What is the max RAV can give penalty with a small child at home? 3 months?
3 months provided you have arranged child-care, otherwise more.

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3 months provided you have arranged child-care, otherwise more.

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Which shows Switzerlands aggressive mother/child politics.
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I'm not looking to abuse the system, I just want what is best for me and my baby. .....

What is the max RAV can give penalty with a small child at home? 3 months?
So if you decide that quitting your job is best for you and the baby....why should RAV pay up? Isn't the system there to support those who do not have a job through circumstances outside their control (e.g. redundancy, quitting due to mobbing, physical / mental illness etc). You would be not working through your own choice


Oh, by the way, I know someone whose fixed contract ended during maternity leave. RAV would not pay anything unless she could prove she had childcare in place as the absent childcare in their view showed "she was not available for work"
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So if you decide that quitting your job is best for you and the baby....why should RAV pay up? Isn't the system there to support those who do not have a job through circumstances outside their control (e.g. redundancy, quitting due to mobbing, physical / mental illness etc). You would be not working through your own choice


Oh, by the way, I know someone whose fixed contract ended during maternity leave. RAV would not pay anything unless she could prove she had childcare in place as the absent childcare in their view showed "she was not available for work"
Thats the system. If you are unemployed then you have the right to unemployment money.Whether you quit or are quitted! So is the system here!
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Re: Quitting job due to long commute and maternity

Have you condidered sitting down with your employer to discuss options. Working less and/or working from home, are only examples. Or perhaps a sabbatical for a year or so, promising to return for a certain period.

All sorts of possibilities and you may find your employer is prepared to look at the long-term.

It certainly can’t hurt to ask.
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Thats the system. If you are unemployed then you have the right to unemployment money.Whether you quit or are quitted! So is the system here!
Provided that you are able and available.

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Hi all,

I have been reading all similar forum posts, but I didn't find one that quite covers my questions.

I commute 4 hours door to door every day and now I am pregnant. My employer gives me 14 weeks maternity leave and then I have to come back 100%, no unpaid leave, no part-time, nothing. As I live so far away, Zürich, I want to search for a new job after maternity leave so I am more flexible for my kid, and not 2 hours away. But I am afraid the RAV won't support me - I work in marketing and it can take time to get a new job in English, in Zürich. Someone told me with a child under 25 years old and a long commute, they are nicer and give you a shorter penalty. Even if you quit yourself. Anyone here can confirm this? The grandparents of the baby will be around to support while I search for a job after the leave, when needed.

Thanks all. I lived here 4 years, worked for 3 of them, soon married to a Swiss national and soon with a half Swiss baby.
And why should you have to find an English speaking job. You speak German also according to bio
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