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Old 20.05.2019, 20:40
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Receiving unemployment benefits - hassle of the century?

I've heard from few people that it's not feasible to be on unemployment benefits due to all the hassle that RAV brings.

True or False?What's your experience.
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Old 20.05.2019, 20:42
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I've heard from few people that it's not feasible to be on unemployment benefits due to all the hassle that RAV brings.

True or False?What's your experience.
Well, if you want the money, you have no choice.

Never been there, friend was the last 2 years but had no hassle and had a very sympathetic RAV advisor.

It all depends on who you get I think.
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Old 20.05.2019, 20:42
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I heard you get a three glass of water at RAV and once you have a new job they won't bother you anymore
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Old 20.05.2019, 20:45
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I've heard from few people that it's not feasible to be on unemployment benefits due to all the hassle that RAV brings.

True or False?What's your experience.
It's dead easy if you qualify & follow the rules.
I had 12 advisors over 4 Rahemnfrists nearly back to back, 4 advisors were in the good friend category, we just had a friendly chat of 30-40 minutes as they wished to practice their English, 4 normal business like ones & 4 slightly tedious however those meetings never lasted more than 5 minutes as they know they could not help me & they wished to speak 100% in German.
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Old 20.05.2019, 21:07
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Re: Receiving unemployment benefits - hassle of the century?

Not worth it if you don't need about 80% of your income to cover the time that you are without employment, according to the amount of time you have paid into the insurance, your parental status and age.

Come on - grow-up and look for yourself - there are more than enough threads on this site alone that give you all the information that you need.
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Old 20.05.2019, 21:22
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Not worth it if you don't need about 80% of your income to cover the time that you are without employment, according to the amount of time you have paid into the insurance, your parental status and age.

Come on - grow-up and look for yourself - there are more than enough threads on this site alone that give you all the information that you need.
70%, unless you have minor children.

Still, 70% of 148200 for two years is nothing to sneeze at.

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Old 20.05.2019, 22:17
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I've heard from few people that it's not feasible to be on unemployment benefits due to all the hassle that RAV brings.

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True. It's all just a smokescreen.
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Old 21.05.2019, 20:00
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I've heard from few people that it's not feasible to be on unemployment benefits due to all the hassle that RAV brings.

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Do you have an option?
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Old 21.05.2019, 20:32
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I've heard from few people that it's not feasible to be on unemployment benefits due to all the hassle that RAV brings.

True or False?What's your experience.
Depends what you call hassle.

1/ You have to prove are looking for work - normally just fill out a from each month with details of 10-12 jobs you have applied for. Be prepared to provide evidence if needed (but never been asked, although a friend had to provide full details of each application)

2/ Meet once a month with your assigned Berater

3/ Be available if they need to contact you either by phone or letter, and remain in the country unless you have 'holiday days' etc.. You accumalate holiday days each month, same as a normal job

4/ Fill out and send back a form to the Casse to claim your money on a monthly basis - do this promptly as they do the 'salary' run at the start of each month

Fail to comply will result in loss of days/weeks of pay...

Yes you have these 'hoops' to jump through, but in effect, you are working for the RAV, you get accident insurance, sickeness cover... same as you would when working.
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Old 21.05.2019, 21:21
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Re: Receiving unemployment benefits - hassle of the century?

You don't have to sign up , if you don't need the money.........
It is all about paying the bills(that keep on coming no matter what).

Everything has its price, the money of the unemployment insurance is no difference.
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Old 22.05.2019, 13:27
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Re: Receiving unemployment benefits - hassle of the century?

Forgot to mention, they now have to send you for a German assesment, and this could lead to them paying you to learn German.
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Old 22.05.2019, 13:33
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I've heard from few people that it's not feasible to be on unemployment benefits due to all the hassle that RAV brings.

True or False?What's your experience.
The "hassle" you mention is actually a procedure where you simply have to meet the set criteria. If they didn't have any criteria and it was just a case of them pouring money into your bank account, no questions asked, why would any of us be working?

It's not insurmountable criteria - if you lose your job, and you are actively looking for a new job, you will more or less meet the criteria. It's pretty well explained either online or you can go in purpose.
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Old 22.05.2019, 13:34
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Forgot to mention, they now have to send you for a German assesment, and this could lead to them paying you to learn German.
Something they refused to do for me!
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Yes you have these 'hoops' to jump through, but in effect, you are working for the RAV, you get accident insurance, sickeness cover... same as you would when working.
You definitely do NOT get accident insurance - there is a big sign in my local RAV office saying now your employer isn't paying it (usual case) you have to sort it out yourself through your Krankenkasse
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Forgot to mention, they now have to send you for a German assesment, and this could lead to them paying you to learn German.
I got nearly four months of courses - every morning five days a week.

The stupid thing is when I said the one course I would like to do is EFL teacher course I was told "it's not our purpose to re-train you to a different career" - so if I was a steam engineer they wouldn't retrain me on diesel :-)
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Old 22.05.2019, 14:43
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I got nearly four months of courses - every morning five days a week.

The stupid thing is when I said the one course I would like to do is EFL teacher course I was told "it's not our purpose to re-train you to a different career" - so if I was a steam engineer they wouldn't retrain me on diesel :-)
EFL is also not on the list of approved Courses, they will not help you there anyway. Found that out the hard (read expensive) way.
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Old 22.05.2019, 14:57
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You definitely do NOT get accident insurance - there is a big sign in my local RAV office saying now your employer isn't paying it (usual case) you have to sort it out yourself through your Krankenkasse
Strange, the SUVA says otherwise. If you get unemployment benefits you are insured with them
https://www.suva.ch/de-ch/versicheru...er-arbeitslose

also the Canton Zurich Amt für Arbeit and Wirtschaft says that you are insured with SUVA
https://awa.zh.ch/internet/volkswirt...nfall_ale.html
so does the corresponding office in canton BE
https://www.vol.be.ch/vol/de/index/a...schuere_DE.pdf
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Old 22.05.2019, 16:54
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Strange, the SUVA says otherwise. If you get unemployment benefits you are insured with them
https://www.suva.ch/de-ch/versicheru...er-arbeitslose

also the Canton Zurich Amt für Arbeit and Wirtschaft says that you are insured with SUVA
https://awa.zh.ch/internet/volkswirt...nfall_ale.html
so does the corresponding office in canton BE
https://www.vol.be.ch/vol/de/index/a...schuere_DE.pdf
It's the case here in Ticino as well.

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Strange, the SUVA says otherwise. If you get unemployment benefits you are insured with them
https://www.suva.ch/de-ch/versicheru...er-arbeitslose

also the Canton Zurich Amt für Arbeit and Wirtschaft says that you are insured with SUVA
https://awa.zh.ch/internet/volkswirt...nfall_ale.html
so does the corresponding office in canton BE
https://www.vol.be.ch/vol/de/index/a...schuere_DE.pdf
You have to pay 3-4% of unemployment insurance payout for the benefit.
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