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Unemployment benefits

Hi,

In the last 24 months I have worked in Switzerland in the field of engineering for about 10 months. After finishing with my assignment (contract expired) I have returned my L-permit, unregistered from municipality and then left CH. Now I would like to return to CH in order to live and work there. I would seek for a job while residing in Switzerland.

  • I would like to know, if I may be entitled to any unemployment benefits while residing in CH?

Based on info found this forum, I am not entitled to unemployment benefits, as I wasn't employed in CH for at least 12 months in the last 24 months, which is a precondition for non-swiss nationalities. However, things could be different in reality. Anyone heard that RAV would make an exception for those who are close to 12 months of employment?


Residing in CH without income is simply too expensive and I don't think that I'd be able to make it without unemployment support.
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Re: Unemployment benefits

You would also need to bring evidence of serious job applications, approximately 10 to 12 per month going back to the time when you found out you would be unemployed.

I'm not sure whether they would make any exceptions for the two months short you are from the qualifying period. The rules are not just for non-Swiss, they are the same for anyone applying for unemployment benefit.

They are pretty strict and rigid when it comes to the rules. Where isn't?
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Re: Unemployment benefits

12 months is a line which is hard enough not to be broken by "about 10 months"
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Re: Unemployment benefits

I can bring evidence applications to RAV, that's not a problem. Regardless, I don't fullfill 12months rule and rules are strict, so I can forget on this for now.

What are remaining options?

a) find some irrelevant & temporary employment to fill that 2 month gap and then hopefully get on employment support, in case I wouldn't find relevant job in that time frame.

b) get job seeker permit, although I don't know what would be the benefit of this, except being obligated to pay health insurance

c) exploit 3 month tourist permit and get on job seeker permit afterwards, if still unsuccessful with finding a relevant job.
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Re: Unemployment benefits

Apply for benefits where you live now, try to find a job in Switzerland and then move back again.
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Re: Unemployment benefits

The 12 month rule is pretty much set in stone so I don't think that's an option.

Unfortunately, looks like you shouldn't have deregistered. On a short stay permit you are allowed to be here for another 6 months, funds permitting and with authorisation from the cantonal migration office, to job hunt.

https://www.ch.ch/en/foreign-nationa...d-switzerland/

Whether that applies when working on a contract assignment I don't know. Might also depend on how much time was left on the L permit.

If you can afford it you could come as a tourist for up to 3 months to see if you can find anything. If not, then providing you still have sufficient funds to support yourself you can apply for a job seekers L permit for another 3 months.

Note that even if you get a job in your home country for a few months to make up the time difference if you move back here you'll only be entitled to 3 months unemployment benefit. That's the way it works if you cross borders and claim unemployment payments anywhere in Europe I believe.

Note also that more and more emphasis is being put on Swiss employers to hire people who already live and work here (B/C permit holders) so even coming as a tourist and/or getting an L permit doesn't necessarily mean you'll be able to find something.

The best way would be to get a job in your home country and then apply for jobs here. That way you can support yourself while job hunting. If your skills are in demand then hopefully you'll get something.
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The 12 month rule is pretty much set in stone so I don't think that's an option.

Unfortunately, looks like you shouldn't have deregistered. On a short stay permit you are allowed to be here for another 6 months, funds permitting and with authorisation from the cantonal migration office, to job hunt.

https://www.ch.ch/en/foreign-nationa...d-switzerland/

Whether that applies when working on a contract assignment I don't know. Might also depend on how much time was left on the L permit.

If you can afford it you could come as a tourist for up to 3 months to see if you can find anything. If not, then providing you still have sufficient funds to support yourself you can apply for a job seekers L permit for another 3 months.

Note that even if you get a job in your home country for a few months to make up the time difference if you move back here you'll only be entitled to 3 months unemployment benefit. That's the way it works if you cross borders and claim unemployment payments anywhere in Europe I believe.

Note also that more and more emphasis is being put on Swiss employers to hire people who already live and work here (B/C permit holders) so even coming as a tourist and/or getting an L permit doesn't necessarily mean you'll be able to find something.
Currently I am employed, but contract is going to expire in next month anyways.

And how did you calculate those 3 months of benefits entitlement, that being in the best case? I must have miss-looked this information, when reading rules defined by RAV.

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The best way would be to get a job in your home country and then apply for jobs here. That way you can support yourself while job hunting. If your skills are in demand then hopefully you'll get something.
Of course. However, I assumed that moving in CH and trying job seeking from there, because I find seeking a job over internet being very hard. I was hoping that by getting on L-permit, living in CH and finally getting a help from RAV would significantly boost my chances. Please elaborate on this one. If this strategy is wrong, then everything else is pretty much pointless.
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However, things could be different in reality. Anyone heard that RAV would make an exception for those who are close to 12 months of employment?
Highly unlikely or rather: no.
The 12-months rule is also not just for "non-Swiss citizens", but applies to everyone.

I'm assuming you are an EU citizen, otherwise forget about that whole "moving and residing here while looking for a job" right away.

Best to stay where you are no matter what and once you find a job, move back.

If you can't afford to live here without a job, then don't move here. Unemployment benefits are not there to finance the life of a currently non-resident who just wishes to find a job here.
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claiming unemployment benefits

Hi. one had worked and had resided in Switzerland for more than 12 months in the last 24 months. Then one had quit his job due to health related reasons and had also left Switzerland. However, the situation had changed and one would like to return to Switzerland in order to work and live here.

Can in such case one return to Switzerland to look for a job while keep receiving unemployment benefits? One is from EU country.
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Have a search on the forum for similar threads but if you quit (or if "one has quit" ), you are not immediately eligible for unemployment benefits. The benefits are there mainly for people who lose their jobs through no fault of their own.

Either way, you should be shooting off as many applications as you can to secure a new job. The RAV office is a lot happier if "one" is doing one's best to get back into work.
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Rather than duplicate answers already received, I have merged OP's newest thread into the original. Hopefully the additional context helps.
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Have a search on the forum for similar threads but if you quit (or if "one has quit" ), you are not immediately eligible for unemployment benefits.
How long in total should I wait before i would receive first payment of unemployment benefit?wait 3 months so i would be able to claim jobseeker permit and another 3 months as a penalty from RAV, therefore 6 months in total of waiting?
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How long in total should I wait before i would receive first payment of unemployment benefit?wait 3 months so i would be able to claim jobseeker permit and another 3 months as a penalty from RAV, therefore 6 months in total of waiting?
You want to apply for a job seekers permit and then RAV? Better get your paperwork out on what periods you did work.


Not sure if you can apply at all as you are not a resident.
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I assume you're an EU national, so wouldn't be able to apply for the job seeker permit for the first 3 months here anyway. That would only be issued if you haven't found a job in that time and you're going to have to show you have the funds to support yourself while you job hunt - and that won't include unemployment benefit. If you can't show you have several thousand already in your bank account you won't get the permit.
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