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The brief period of be nice to everybody seems to be over.
Which brief period?
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Old 26.08.2019, 19:56
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Did the OP write that?
In the very first line of the very first post the OP wrote about a probation period.



Post #9 and post #33. Just because the OP thinks there's a probation period doesn't mean there is one.



It's difficult to know for sure as the OP seems to have a little difficulty with understanding.
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Old 26.08.2019, 19:58
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Which brief period?

Well the whole 'how do I use a washing machine thread' springs to mind.
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Old 26.08.2019, 19:58
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Post #9 and post #33. Just because the OP thinks there's a probation period doesn't mean there is one.



It's difficult to know for sure as the OP seems to have a little difficulty with understanding.
Or there could be one and he has misread that from the contract.

Is there a legal obligation to have a probation period? Don´t think so?
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Old 26.08.2019, 20:22
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Or there could be one and he has misread that from the contract.

Is there a legal obligation to have a probation period? Don´t think so?
The default position is a probationary period, a contact can remove it. If it's not mentioned in the contract then standard law applies.
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Old 26.08.2019, 20:27
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Re: preempting a firing next week

I have heard about someone avoiding to get fired by working really hard and doing a great job.
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Old 26.08.2019, 20:29
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Well the whole 'how do I use a washing machine thread' springs to mind.
I think I may have missed that one.
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Old 26.08.2019, 20:50
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The default position is a probationary period, a contact can remove it. If it's not mentioned in the contract then standard law applies.

Thanks, and standard law is one month with 7 days notice.
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Old 27.08.2019, 11:05
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I have heard about someone avoiding to get fired by working really hard and doing a great job.
Tried it. Still got sacked...
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Old 27.08.2019, 11:44
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Thanks, and standard law is one month with 7 days notice.
...which can be extended to 3 months. OP mentions 3 months probation.

Also - I just learnt that sickness does NOT protect from notice in the probation period.
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Re: preempting a firing next week

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I have heard about someone avoiding to get fired by working really hard and doing a great job.
this has to be one of the dumbest statements posted so far.

Swiss's liberal employment laws mean hard working and professional people get fired all the time for personal and petty reasons, as well as people who simply are guilty of having the nerve to be actually sick or break a leg.

I still havent been fired, but there is a few days to go.
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Old 27.08.2019, 13:32
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Swiss's liberal employment laws...
"Swiss's"?
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Old 27.08.2019, 14:01
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Swiss's liberal employment laws mean hard working and professional people get fired all the time for personal and petty reasons, as well as people who simply are guilty of having the nerve to be actually sick or break a leg.
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this has to be one of the dumbest statements posted so far.
QED.

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Old 27.08.2019, 14:13
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this has to be one of the dumbest statements posted so far.

Swiss's liberal employment laws mean hard working and professional people get fired all the time for personal and petty reasons, as well as people who simply are guilty of having the nerve to be actually sick or break a leg.

I still havent been fired, but there is a few days to go.
Why are you so sure that you will be fired? OK so you don't get on with your boss but firing an employee for some slapdash reason, while it goes on, is relatively rare. It's a pain in the arse for a company to go through an expensive and time-consuming recruitment process just because of the whim of some department head.

Yes, hiring and firing here doesn't need to go through armour-plated unions and tribunals like elsewhere but it is also damaging for the reputation of companies if they are known for poor management, careless recruitment choices, and big staff turnover.
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Old 27.08.2019, 20:28
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Maybe OP is an air hostess.

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Old 27.08.2019, 22:31
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Re: preempting a firing next week

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this has to be one of the dumbest statements posted so far.

Swiss's liberal employment laws mean hard working and professional people get fired all the time for personal and petty reasons, as well as people who simply are guilty of having the nerve to be actually sick or break a leg.

I still havent been fired, but there is a few days to go.
The statement about hardworking individual who reduces the risk of being fired is relevant for a healthy working environment. Opposite might apply to a toxic working environment which is based on subjective treatment of employees e.g. discrimination or jealousy.

However there are cases of hardworking employees being retrenched from corporations because there are mass work force reductions due to company’s mediocre performance. Sadly, this happens a lot nowadays due to recession. Been there, done that. Having said that, a valuable hard working employee shouldn’t have a problem with finding another opportunity.
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I still havent been fired, but there is a few days to go.

Not long to wait now
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