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Re: Work and mental health

So I managed to keep it together from around august 2020 until last Monday and I cracked 🙁😟

I feel hopeless and useless but I suppose i can deal with it.

I went to the doctor yesterday for the first time in many years and she gave me a note for two weeks and told me to find a psychiatrist who speaks English and she will refer me so I now have another week of protection from employer

The doctor was amazing and I expected a much harder time from her. I have thought long and hard for many months and my future with my current employer is simply over. I do not see any way I can return and my team has already been taken from me and my manager is I suppose delighted that he broke me

I have two questions

1). Does anyone know a psychiatrist in Zurich who speaks English and is sympathetic. I am looking for someone who is not going to give me medication but rather give me the time (and sick notes) to try and come to terms with what has happened

2) so that I can get peace of mind how long do you expect a depression burnout at work to give me from the psychiatrist. Do you think a few months is realistic? What about six months? Or am I dreaming and itís measured in days and weeks

3) if after the psychiatrist says I am fine to work and I simply cannot go back to that environment does HR get involved amd kind of settle the notice period and pay you out to leave with at least a little dignity ?

I have to say I thought I was strong. I thought I was resilient. I thought I was invincible but this last six months had mentally exhausted me and for once in my career across many different companies it has bit me badly

I hope this helps others to take mental care seriously
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Re: Work and mental health

Iím sorry that it has come to this for you and unfortunately I donít have a recommendation for you, but a few thoughts:

First of all the people that join the healthcare services because they want to help people and while you do hear the odd negative story, most people are kind and caring so the chances of meeting someone nasty is almost non existent.

When it comes to treatment, donít rule out anything, be guided by the professionals and at the very least give it a try before dismissing it. Most likely you will need medication at least at the start. How long will it take, no idea, three months, six months.... donít worry you will not be certified fit for work until you are really considered fit for work.

As for work, when the times comes youíll be fit to deal with it. In the worse case youíll have sick time, notice period and along unemployment period as a buffer, so relax about it for now. And who knows these are very changeable times, by the time you are fit for work again the entire environment at work may have changed. You canít change it so if at all possible try to put it to the side for now.
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So I managed to keep it together from around august 2020 until last Monday and I cracked 🙁😟

I feel hopeless and useless but I suppose i can deal with it.

I went to the doctor yesterday for the first time in many years and she gave me a note for two weeks and told me to find a psychiatrist who speaks English and she will refer me so I now have another week of protection from employer ...
Wow, I'm sorry it's turned out this way for you. It's hard to feel this way, not knowing exactly what to do to feel better.

For a partial answer to this, to explain some of the thinking about the duration of sick-leave,
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2) so that I can get peace of mind how long do you expect a depression burnout at work to give me from the psychiatrist. Do you think a few months is realistic? What about six months? Or am I dreaming and itís measured in days and weeks
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1). Does anyone know a psychiatrist in Zurich who speaks English and is sympathetic. I am looking for someone who is not going to give me medication but rather give me the time (and sick notes) to try and come to terms with what has happened
This thread sets out the basics, in terms of types of psychotherapeutic treatment, and suggestions on how to find someone: https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...t-how-get.html
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Re: Work and mental health

Via a GP friend am told Dr Kasimir Marx at Stauffacher is very sympathetic & speaks good English. The law here is that you need a referral from the psychiatrist to get access to psychotherapy et al and your health insurance will then pay. This barrier will be removed next summer following an announcement by the Bundesrat but until then you have to go via a psychiatrist. You might also want to investigate going to a clinic for a few weeks - have heard great things by those who went through this as part of their healing process.

There is no set time - it will take as long as it takes. Someone at the firm of my OH was off for over a year. I wouldn’t put yourself under any time constraints.

Also look at aepsy.com - it’s a new service launched during the pandemic but is already getting a lot of great press. Alas it’s German based right now but it’s a great resource for therapists et al.

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The law here is that you need a referral from the psychiatrist to get access to psychotherapy et al and your health insurance will then pay. This barrier will be removed next summer following an announcement by the Bundesrat but until then you have to go via a psychiatrist.
Thanks for mentioning the upcoming changes, even through what you've written is, I believe, not entirely accurate.

Psychotherapy can be provided by a psychiatrist or by a psychologist. Either can do this, as long as they have the requisite training in psychotherapy, and they often attend the same courses for further education.

As psychiatrist is a doctor.
  • If one has the kind of medical insurance with a clause to consult-your-GP-first before doing anything, then you will need a referral from the GP.
  • Otherwise, you can just contact a psychiatrist directly and make the appointment.

A psychologist can work
  • delegated/authorised by a psychiatrist (although not all psychologists choose to do so).
    In this case, costs will be covered by the basic medical insurance.
  • in their own name and independently from a doctor.
    In this case, some medical insurances pay some of the costs, but typically to a much lesser % of the costs, and for fewer sessions.

The new change will mean that access to psychotherapy will become less restricted. Soon, a psychologist will be covered by the basic medical insurance, irrespective of whether or not the psychologist is working under the authority of a psychiatrist.
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Re: Work and mental health

Try get referred to a Cognitive Behavioural Therapist.
They will give you skills to deal with anxiety in everyday situations.
Mindfulness is also good.
Remember to also eat a balanced diet and get regular exercise.
A short stay at a clinic/wellness centre maybe beneficial too.
Remember you an overcome this.!!
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Re: Work and mental health

Many thanks all

I need firstly to find a psychiatrist who will give me the time needed so I can start to work on finding a new job and trying to get better and also provide me with a sick note for a while and who speaks English

If anyone has gone through this themselves and can recommend a doctor who did not push them to go back to work and gave them time and sick notes please PM me - That would be the most helpful at this stage.

After that I will need to decide whether to take medication / be referred into a clinic or just try and deal with it myself.
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Many thanks all

I need firstly to find a psychiatrist who will give me the time needed so I can start to work on finding a new job and trying to get better and also provide me with a sick note for a while and who speaks English

If anyone has gone through this themselves and can recommend a doctor who did not push them to go back to work and gave them time and sick notes please PM me - That would be the most helpful at this stage.

After that I will need to decide whether to take medication / be referred into a clinic or just try and deal with it myself.
I don’t think any psychiatrist will send you back to work if your situation warrants it.

Good idea to get professional advice to understand your situation and find a solution. Professional help is good to get a leg up when things are bleak but at the end of the day there is only so much they can do longterm unless we are willing to change things around a bit to find the long term solution.

If you are getting time off work it’s important to have a plan like getting physical exercise etc each day as idle time can be an equally big problem to a stressful work situation.
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I need firstly to find a psychiatrist who will give me the time needed so I can start to work on finding a new job and trying to get better and also provide me with a sick note for a while and who speaks English
Firstly, your GP would normally be the one who signs your sick notes and refers you to a psych***ist as they deem appropriate. They would also often start you on some SSRI-type antidepressants, without needing a psych consultation, but would then be able to change medication based on your progress or further diagnosis.

You need time, and your GP should give you this, which may involve seeing different specialists. I've been there, and know loads of other people who have, nearly always finding a sympathetic ear from their GP in the first instance.

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After that I will need to decide whether to take medication / be referred into a clinic or just try and deal with it myself.
Take your doctors advice, don't be afraid of medication, but make sure you understand exactly what it's supposed to do, to better help you understand if it's working. Clinical Depression is fundamentally an imbalance of brain chemicals (neurotransmitters, including such as seratonin, noradrenline, dopamine and others), and it's difficult to work through the original cause until you get the physical effects under control.

Yes, some of the drugs can be more or less effective, with more or less in the way of side effects, and it's very important to work with your doctor to find which is best for you, but you have to continue taking them, otherwise not only will your brain chemical balance swing even more between highs and lows, but you'll not be able to get an idea of whether they're working well for you or not.

Once you've got your head clear you can work out, with or without external help, how to modify your life to cope with, avoid, remove or otherwise deal with whatever the root causes were, but you'll never get to that point if you don't get the chemicals right first.

Edit: Just to add that once you get a referral from your GP, a psychiatrist may then take on the prescribing and sicknote responsibilities, but a psychologist or other non-doctor specialist will not be able to do this, so you'll still be relying on your GP for these.
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Try get referred to a Cognitive Behavioural Therapist.
They will give you skills to deal with anxiety in everyday situations.
Mindfulness is also good.
These treatments may or may not be appropriate, but one must not prejudge what may work in some cases but not in others.

For me, CBT and mindfulness were not something I was comfortable with, especially when the latter touches on intangibles like 'spirituality'. While my GP was keen to recommend them he could also see from my reaction that they would not have worked for me, so didn't push it.
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Depending on the scope of your current state it might be doable with therapy alone, but it also might not be.

I can't say anything about CH system, since we're in DE, I can only say about healing.

My SO went through really really hard patch, intensive weekly therapy with psychiatrist, psychologist and medication (highest dosage) for like 6 months or so, complete sick leave, then for the next 6 months partial work, but mostly for staying in touch with the work, productivity was almost non existent. Speaking therapy lasted for almost 2 years, medicines are still active and won't be removed for the foreseeable future. So that's 3+ years now.

My patch was less scary than his, and I ain't working, meds 2+ years and no quitting on the horizon, therapy was 9ish months, I stopped, but I definitely went down and up without therapy but it took a year or so.... however, it wasn't THAT bad as previously, so it's easy to sneak up on you.

So, yeah, if this damaged you really bad, think years. My wild guess is that until you start digging you might not even know the extent of the damage occurred :/
Not years in 'disabled' condition, but years for 'really sort things out and be ready to laugh again'

Definitely don't discard meds. Especially if when you start digging it shows the real, ugly face.

It's awesome that you're present enough to reaching out for help yourself and organizing it. That definitely gives hope that recovery won't be that long and hard. As opposed if someone else had to push you hard to seek help, which I had to do for my SO.

One thing I can recommend is - find a hobby. My SO dared to share that woodworking is interesting thing, so we acquired a bunch of stuff. Tricky to do in the flat, but doable (short periods, watch out on noise and such - however, most of the time is spend on learning things, planning, measuring anyway). And making something with your hands, if you're handy person, really gets those hormones kicking back in
Nothing intense, most important thing is that it's interesting to you enough to make you dive in it and occupy your mind and remove it from going in vicious circles around things that made you burn out in the first place.

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Many thanks all

I need firstly to find a psychiatrist who will give me the time needed so I can start to work on finding a new job and trying to get better and also provide me with a sick note for a while and who speaks English

If anyone has gone through this themselves and can recommend a doctor who did not push them to go back to work and gave them time and sick notes please PM me - That would be the most helpful at this stage.

After that I will need to decide whether to take medication / be referred into a clinic or just try and deal with it myself.
I hope that your expectations are not too high. It is highly unlikely that any doctor, whether your GP or a psychiatrist, would give you a sick note for longer than 1 to 4 weeks at a time. They would regard that as irresponsible, because they'd need to see how your condition changes, as you and they try to work out, together, what you most need.

A short-duration sick note can feel stressful, when you yourself know that you know that 2 weeks off work just ain't gonna give you the space you need to breathe. However, that's just the way the system here usually works: one relatively short-term sick note followed by another, then another, and so on, as needed.

Therefore, in your search, I recommend that your focus be on finding someone where the connection works, (that might take two or three tries, with different therapists) rather than finding someone who will give you a long-term sick note.

Having said that, you can probably be fairly confident of a short-term sick note from any doctor and - while you are looking for a therapist - it is completely fine (for your employer) for your GP to be the one to keep writing the next sick note, as you need them.
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I hope that your expectations are not too high. It is highly unlikely that any doctor, whether your GP or a psychiatrist, would give you a sick note for longer than 1 to 4 weeks at a time.
Highly unlikely, you say? Pretty sure I was signed off for longer period than that, like three months or so.
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Re: Work and mental health

I am so sorry to hear, but proud of you for taking the next steps. My answers below...

I have two questions

1). Does anyone know a psychiatrist in Zurich who speaks English and is sympathetic. I am looking for someone who is not going to give me medication but rather give me the time (and sick notes) to try and come to terms with what has happened

Tom is great and very understanding.

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2) so that I can get peace of mind how long do you expect a depression burnout at work to give me from the psychiatrist. Do you think a few months is realistic? What about six months? Or am I dreaming and itís measured in days and weeks

It really depends ... most psychs will start out with 1-2 weeks as it does not look credible to immediately write you off for longer than that. Once you begin your therapy and they have a better understanding of the situation, perhaps they will extend the sick notes for longer ...

3) if after the psychiatrist says I am fine to work and I simply cannot go back to that environment does HR get involved amd kind of settle the notice period and pay you out to leave with at least a little dignity ?

Depends upon the company... in my experience, a large corporation usually has a standard way of following these types of circumstances. My doctor was supportive until the very end and I had found a new employer.

I have to say I thought I was strong. I thought I was resilient. I thought I was invincible but this last six months had mentally exhausted me and for once in my career across many different companies it has bit me badly

I hope this helps others to take mental care seriously

You are strong and resilient! Taking the first step towards receiving help is a very good sign of it. Wishing you all the best!
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Highly unlikely, you say? Pretty sure I was signed off for longer period than that, like three months or so.
I have heard that weekly certificates are the norm. Getting three months of is unheard of

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I found drinking to be something that will help you work out if this is a mental problem or not. It sounds mad I know, but I'v been there and can recall talking to a colleague who had the same experience.

Having burnt out I now find I cannot drink alcohol at all. Drinking makes me relax, and the next day; usually the middle of the night when the effect wares off I wake up in a cold sweat, a full on panic attack in the making.

Now, that said I now know what is happening, and have crossed my fingers managed to work thru alcohol induced attacks because I know what is going on, although for most part I simply don't drink at all.

AKA. I am not suggesting you go out buy a bottle of wine and drink it, no. But, but maybe you already noticed or made the connection; you go out with some friends, come home and find yourself waking in the night , not knowing if you your going to make to the morning, your heart racing, unable to breath, unable to lay down and close your eyes, unable to get up and make yourself a drink. Trapped.

The longer you stay in such a toxic environment too, the longer it takes to find your way out of it. I wish I had realized earlier what I was doing to myself. I regret not leaving sooner than I did.
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I found drinking to be something that will help you work out if this is a mental problem or not. It sounds mad I know, but I'v been there and can recall talking to a colleague who had the same experience.

Having burnt out I now find I cannot drink alcohol at all. Drinking makes me relax, and the next day; usually the middle of the night when the effect wares off I wake up in a cold sweat, a full on panic attack in the making.

Now, that said I now know what is happening, and have crossed my fingers managed to work thru alcohol induced attacks because I know what is going on, although for most part I simply don't drink at all.

AKA. I am not suggesting you go out buy a bottle of wine and drink it, no. But, but maybe you already noticed or made the connection; you go out with some friends, come home and find yourself waking in the night , not knowing if you your going to make to the morning, your heart racing, unable to breath, unable to lay down and close your eyes, unable to get up and make yourself a drink. Trapped.

The longer you stay in such a toxic environment too, the longer it takes to find your way out of it. I wish I had realized earlier what I was doing to myself. I regret not leaving sooner than I did.
Alcohol has always been my "medicine" - when I went through my breakdown, I began to drink more & more to where it was no longer therapeutic. I never experienced what you did while drinking, but I did decide to attempt to take my own life rather haphazardly and impulsively. That is when I knew I needed help and needed to get out. It wasn't just work that was bringing me down (although it was the trigger), it was a whole world of pain that I had pushed down for far too long. 2 years of therapy and I can say I am a completely different person now & in a much better place.

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I have heard that weekly certificates are the norm. Getting three months of is unheard of

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I've known of certificates for one or two weeks, at least to start with. And then, if need be, they were followed up by a further certificate for another week or two. The only times I've known of a longer certificate, like Ace1's three months or so, were to do with:
  • a severe physical illness or accident injuries, where it was clear from the start and without any doubt that the necessary treatment and subsequent rehab would definitely take a long time,
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  • a severe psychological breakdown or phase of mental illness - but in such cases the long-term certificates were generally preceded by several short-term ones (during which early weeks the doctor was trying to assess the patient's condition and needs).
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