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Old 24.12.2019, 21:58
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Re: Do Brits have the same rights as EU citizens in Switzerland after Brexit?

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Switzerland is not in the EU and therefore will make it's own decisions.
It will, it will make decisions that are in its best interest and that includes not starting a trade war with a major trading block such as the EU or the USA in order to give the UK some kind of special deal beyond what it gives to other third countries.

In the end we will go along with what is agreed with the EU, with perhaps a couple of face saving exceptions if necessary.
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Old 24.12.2019, 22:05
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Re: Do Brits have the same rights as EU citizens in Switzerland after Brexit?

Let's check some facts, eh?

Switzerland and UK already agreed all of this

UK.gov https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...ghts-agreement

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This agreement will provide continuity to Swiss citizens already resident in the UK, and UK nationals already resident in Switzerland, when the UK is no longer subject to the EU-Swiss Free Movement of Persons Agreement. This agreement will apply whether or not there is a deal with the EU
And on the Swiss side https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...019-03-22.html

..and Schengen (my italics)
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Exemption from visa requirement
The EU is expected to exempt UK nationals from the requirement to obtain a visa to enter the Schengen area after the UK leaves the EU. These future developments regarding Schengen mean that amendments have to be made to the Ordinance on Entry and the Granting of Visas (VGO), which will enter into force from the day on which the AFMP no longer applies to the UK
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Old 24.12.2019, 22:13
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Re: Do Brits have the same rights as EU citizens in Switzerland after Brexit?

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The Brits chose to leave EU.
Switzerland is not in the EU and therefore will make it's own decisions.
With the EU, UK is leaving all the deals the EU negotiatied with third parties, including Switzerland.

Considering all the pressure part of the politics is putting on immigration and the EU-granted rights, I would find it inconsistent if CH started to grant the same rights to non-EU countries like the new UK. Although it may very well be, theoretically.

On the other side I also find highly inconsistent that UK leaves the EU and apparently everybody on both sides is working hard trying to keep the same rights (and obligations!) that came with the EU itself... but that's probably just me
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Old 24.12.2019, 22:15
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..and Schengen (my italics)
That "expected" bit is true, but the EU made it clear that it will only work as a two way road - Brits can be exempted from the visa program if they do the exact same in return for EU nationals... which is sort of the exact opposite of the original "we take back control of who comes to Britain" bit. So I would not jump to conclusions just yet.
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Old 24.12.2019, 22:44
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So naive that it's entertaining.
Good, you're exactly where you meant to be.

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It will, it will make decisions that are in its best interest and that includes not starting a trade war with a major trading block such as the EU or the USA in order to give the UK some kind of special deal beyond what it gives to other third countries.

In the end we will go along with what is agreed with the EU, with perhaps a couple of face saving exceptions if necessary.
No face saving exceptions. (What are we, Chinese? LOL). If the agreement with the EU is good for Switzerland we'll go along. If for the Swiss benefit exceptions are necessary they will be implemented.

Switzerland sorted the to be expected mess between EU and GB for itself for the moment. Mainly because we don't need the distraction of Britain's should we ... should we not. This way we can now just watch the spectacle.

"Sehe und staune" is our theme now.
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Re: Do Brits have the same rights as EU citizens in Switzerland after Brexit?

Check this:


https://www.eda.admin.ch/countries/u...rexit-faq.html
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Old 26.12.2019, 10:09
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Most Americans I talk with tell me they did not vote for Trump either...
You clearly talk with a very limited group of Americans.

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Old 27.12.2019, 11:23
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Let's check some facts, eh?

Switzerland and UK already agreed all of this

UK.gov https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...ghts-agreement



And on the Swiss side https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...019-03-22.html

..and Schengen (my italics)
Applies until December 2020 only (or until the end of an extension, which BoJo currently says won't happen).

What applies afterwards is unknown.
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Old 27.12.2019, 11:48
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Applies until December 2020 only (or until the end of an extension, which BoJo currently says won't happen).

What applies afterwards is unknown.
Where does it say it only applies until December 2020 in any of the links gbn posted?
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Old 27.12.2019, 13:22
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You clearly talk with a very limited group of Americans.

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Yea! Most Americans don't vote.
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Re: Do Brits have the same rights as EU citizens in Switzerland after Brexit?

Hello.
I also have a Brexit related query.
Since I don't follow the news too closely and I don't have the time or will to read 26'000 posts on the bumper Brexit thread, so I have to just ask:
What is the current situation with Brexit? Is it definitely able to go ahead at the end of the month? Has it passed all stages of UK parliament and law and has it been signed off by both sides?
We've been here before.

I am a holder of a UK passport, so I will be affected at some stage in some way.

By and large I understand that there is still a transition period to get through and the changes don't start until that's over as well. Is this now locked into law also and definitely ending at the end of the year?
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Old 23.01.2020, 08:02
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Hello.
I also have a Brexit related query.
Since I don't follow the news too closely and I don't have the time or will to read 26'000 posts on the bumper Brexit thread, so I have to just ask:
What is the current situation with Brexit? Is it definitely able to go ahead at the end of the month? Has it passed all stages of UK parliament and law and has it been signed off by both sides?
We've been here before.

I am a holder of a UK passport, so I will be affected at some stage in some way.

By and large I understand that there is still a transition period to get through and the changes don't start until that's over as well. Is this now locked into law also and definitely ending at the end of the year?
BBC News is your friend. Yes, it's all happening at the end of the month.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51214761
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Old 23.01.2020, 08:19
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Hi all,

Do you know if Brits will have the same rights as EU citizens in Switzerland after Brexit?
Rumours have it they will be rounded up and shipped back to UK
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BBC News is your friend. Yes, it's all happening at the end of the month.
Except for the bongs ...
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Old 23.01.2020, 11:18
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Hello.
I also have a Brexit related query.
Since I don't follow the news too closely and I don't have the time or will to read 26'000 posts on the bumper Brexit thread, so I have to just ask:
What is the current situation with Brexit? Is it definitely able to go ahead at the end of the month? Has it passed all stages of UK parliament and law and has it been signed off by both sides?
We've been here before.

I am a holder of a UK passport, so I will be affected at some stage in some way.

By and large I understand that there is still a transition period to get through and the changes don't start until that's over as well. Is this now locked into law also and definitely ending at the end of the year?
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Re: Do Brits have the same rights as EU citizens in Switzerland after Brexit?

Yes it's official. It's been passed. UK is out.( at last! ) All from the UK can start packing!
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Old 23.01.2020, 11:45
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Yes it's official. It's been passed. UK is out.( at last! ) All from the UK can start packing!
They probably will. Only where will they head to?
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Re: Do Brits have the same rights as EU citizens in Switzerland after Brexit?

No. They will have better rights. The best rights, in fact. They'll have so many rights, they'll be sick of them!
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They probably will. Only where will they head to?
Just don't for a moment think about Australia!!
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Yes it's official. It's been passed. UK is out.( at last! ) All from the UK can start packing!
Err, did you not actually read any of the earlier replies? Anyone already resident here won't be affected by any immediate change, and most likely not at all.

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It's not likely that anyone would.
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