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Chômage waiting period - how often?

I started receiving chômage a few months ago. Due to the waiting period, I haven't received anything for the first couple of weeks, which hit me hard financially.

I really don't like being at home all day, so I'm thinking about looking for and taking a job that might not be a good fit (possibly something menial and/or not related to my field).

However, my question is - if I take an unsuitable job and then I lose it after a short amount of time and I sign back on, will I be subject to a waiting period again? That could hit me really hard financially and I might be better off holding out for something suitable...

I would be equally grateful for someone pointing out where I could look up this information!

Many thanks in advance for any replies!
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Re: Chômage waiting period - how often?

Wait days must only be covered once during a Rahmenfrist, i.e., the two-year qualified period. See para. C109 at this link (German):


https://www.koordination.ch/fileadmi...c/ale_c108.pdf


Note: RFL: Rahmenfrist für den Leistungsbezug (qualified period for the receipt of unemployment compensation)
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I started receiving chômage a few months ago. Due to the waiting period, I haven't received anything for the first couple of weeks, which hit me hard financially.

I really don't like being at home all day, so I'm thinking about looking for and taking a job that might not be a good fit (possibly something menial and/or not related to my field).

However, my question is - if I take an unsuitable job and then I lose it after a short amount of time and I sign back on, will I be subject to a waiting period again? That could hit me really hard financially and I might be better off holding out for something suitable...

I would be equally grateful for someone pointing out where I could look up this information!

Many thanks in advance for any replies!
If all you want is to keep busy during day, you should ask them for a "Einsatzprogramm". They can be very interesting as you can put your nose into places you would usually not have access to (over qualified, totally wrong education, totally unsuitable as your were aiming at anyway etc. etc.).
This also prolongs your "Bezugstage".
Doing something completely new and different can also clear your mind and make you see what other things you are capable of doing. Not necessarily exactly what you're doing at the "Einsatzprogramm" but it can show you strengths you have not bothered noticing before.

From what you posted you're after, it's like eat the cake and have it too.

Btw. RAV/unemployment insurance does not care all that much about "suitable", they just want you to work/make a living/off their backs. So if you manage to find a job, deregister and come back, they want to know why you lost it.
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Re: Chômage waiting period - how often?

You can also take a job (full or part time) and not deregister if it is less that what the ALK pays you.

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You can also take a job (full or part time) and not deregister if it is less that what the ALK pays you.

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Only for a limited time afaIk. If they keep you too long, you're stuck with it. Latest end of insurance-period.
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Only for a limited time afaIk. If they keep you too long, you're stuck with it. Latest end of insurance-period.
Doesn't matter, doesn't count towards a new rahmenfrist anyway.

At least it keeps you busy, and you will earn more than not working at all!

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Re: Chômage waiting period - how often?

You can also do some determined time jobs and remain registered in chômage.
The number of days you will work will elongate your ¨right¨ to chomage and allowing you to find a suitable job. What you will earn will go to chômage and they will continue paying you your rent.

Good luck for this!
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Re: Chômage waiting period - how often?

It looks like I may have found something. It is part time and pays less than my previous job. It is not organised by the ORP.

If I take this part time job, I understand that I will still get a bit of money for a while from the unemployment fund. But will I still have to look for a job in order to receive this bit of 'run-on' payment? Will I still have to submit a form each month to prove that I have applied for at least 10 jobs? Will I still have to attend the useless and infuriating meetings with my advisor?

Many thanks in advance for any replies!
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It looks like I may have found something. It is part time and pays less than my previous job. It is not organised by the ORP.

If I take this part time job, I understand that I will still get a bit of money for a while from the unemployment fund. But will I still have to look for a job in order to receive this bit of 'run-on' payment? Will I still have to submit a form each month to prove that I have applied for at least 10 jobs? Will I still have to attend the useless and infuriating meetings with my advisor?

Many thanks in advance for any replies!
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Re: Chômage waiting period - how often?

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You can also do some determined time jobs and remain registered in chômage.
The number of days you will work will elongate your ¨right¨ to chomage and allowing you to find a suitable job. What you will earn will go to chômage and they will continue paying you your rent.

Good luck for this!
This isn't quite correct. They pay chomage for 400 days, less if you are not married with kids or longer if you are over 55 when you sign on, I think 800 days.

The chomage period is 2 years, although payments will only cover around 18 months of that, not 520 days. Nothing will elongate that period. After 2 years they will want to reassess your claim and if you haven't worked enough, you get nothing.

You can during that two year period sign out and then sign back in if you want to spread the payments out over the period, although your contributions to your old age pension will not be paid if you sign off. Don't know the implications of that.

You can only "elongate" the period you can claim for by finding 200 days worth of work, so work at 50% for 2 years and you can elongate it or 100% for 1 year and you can sign back in. If you find just 199 days you get nothing.
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or longer if you are over 55 when you sign on, I think 800 days.

560 days afaik
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560 days afaik
520.

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Re: Chômage waiting period - how often?

According to my award letter, I am entitled to 400 daily payments over 2 years. I have even calculated how much money I would still get from the unemployment fund, but if it wouldn't help me get the chômage office off my back, plus I would have less time available to look for a job, it could be the worst of both worlds...
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They pay chomage for 400 days, less if you are not married with kids or longer if you are over 55 when you sign on, I think 800 days.
They don't pay less if you are not married or don't have kids, but they do pay only 70% if you have no minor children, vs. 80% if you do, and 520 days if 55+ when you sign on.

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