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Unemployment benefits for part time worker and RAV calculations.

Hello lovely members , I have a confusion to ask for some light.

I just had registered at RAV for unemployement benifits as i became completely unemployed from December end. I had been working as cleaning lady for different families and most of them were terminated mutually due to my pregnancy complications that I suffered from July. I carried out with one employer until December to complete the required 12 months for claiming unemployment benefits. But I was on medical leave for about two months from July to september due to severe morning sickness and there was no salary during that time. I am not sure whether I am entitled to get any money from my situation. Currently i am 37 weeks pregnant. If I am entitled to get any amount from Arbeitlosenkasse, would it consider all the salaries that I got from all my employers or is it just from the only one family that I did for 12 months? I started working from December 2018/January 2019 and except one family, most of them were ended from July 2019.

One more question: does RAV calculate the compensation on the basis of 12 month salary or 6 months ? My problem is until June 2019, my salary was quite good. But since July, due to pregnancy and illness, I have salary from just one family and it is too less.

The RAV advisor told me to fill maternity compensation form to SVA zurich. Can I do it right away before my child birth? Does my current situation entitle me to any maternity compensation?
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Re: Unemployment benefits for part time worker and RAV calculations.

6 months normally, 12 months if it's to your advantage.

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The RAV advisor told me to fill maternity compensation form to SVA zurich. Can I do it right away before my child birth? Does my current situation entitle me to any maternity compensation?

As I recall, the maternity benefits form can be submitted based on the baby's calculated birthdate with written support from a doctor's note. Maternity benefits are then paid as of the birthdate, at which time you will be de-registered from RAV. Since you are not employed, your maternity benefits would be paid by SVA Zurich, as indicated by your RAV adviser. See these two links for more information (English):

https://www.ahv-iv.ch/p/6.02.e

https://www.seco.admin.ch/seco/en/home/Publikationen_Dienstleistungen/Publikationen_und_Formulare/Arbeit/Arbeitsbedingungen/Broschuren/mutterschaft-_-schutz-der-arbeitnehmerinnen.html
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Unemployment benefits calculation for part time, hourly wage earners

I registered for unemployment benefits from January. I have been working on hourly wages for the last 12 months. Till July 2019, I had average monthly income about 2000 CHF. But from July I had to reduce my work and average monthly income was only between 200-300 CHF. I have heard the Arbeitlosenkasse calculate on the basis of 12 months average salary. But I have also seen from a website that in order to claim unemployment benefits, we need at least 500 CHF monthly income.

My question is: is the 500 average of the last 12 month total salary or is it compulsory to have at least 500 in each month?
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Question about RAV, pregnancy

Dear members,

I have asked few times in this forum about RAV and unemployment insurance. This work is stressing me a lot during my final pregnancy stage. I m 39 week pregnant and too much stressed.

I submitted all documents ( forms, salary statements, doctorís certificates) since January. After working on those documents for three times, I thought everything would be adequate.

Yesterday again I got one letter from Arbeitlosenkasse, asking me to submit all the work list of all my employers and fill a pretty long form by my doctor. And a questionnaire on why I terminated my jobs.

About me: I worked as private household cleaner for about eight families from December 2018. My works were 2-4 hrs per week for each family. I had to stop working for 7 families from July 2019 because of my pregnancy complications. I carried out with one family till December 2019 to compete the 12 month work requirement for RAV registration. That also means I worked only for 2-3 hours per week, or less in December due to holiday. My total monthly salary till July was around 2000 Franken. But after July it was just between 200-300 Fr. or less when I was absent or holiday.

I read from RAV website that we need at least 500 CHF monthly salary to claim the benefits. Now I am confused how their calculations work. Does It calculate on the basis of total earning of 12 months, or is it compulsory to have earned atleast 500 in all months? Does working just 3 hrs in a month( December) help to fulfill the 12 months requirement? If the second is the case, I donít see any sense to use so much energy and time to get the documents asked to submit now. Asking documents from various employers with whom I lost contact for long time is very difficult and also I need to find a separate appointment with doctor to fill the form ( to medically prove that I was not fit to work physically laborious works).

I donít know why the Arbeitlosenkasse wants to see all the work list, although it has already received all details of salary statements.

My questions: on the basis of the above situation:
1. Do you think it is reasonable to work on the requested documents and submit? Do you think there is a slight chance that I will have any benefits?

2. I had to terminate the jobs mutually or by myself due to the work nature and pregnancy complications. I have doctorís certificates for these. Do you think my argumentations ( pregnancy) is adequate to waive the RAV penalty ( no payment upto 60 days)?

3. Why do they want to have list of all works I did for all employers? Is there a different requirement for part time/ hourly wage earners?
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Re: Unemployment benefits for part time worker and RAV calculations.

Hi, I've merged your threads to try and keep the relevant info in one place.

I don't know the answers to your questions, but I wish you the best with the rest of your pregnancy and the birth of your child.
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Re: Question about RAV, pregnancy

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Dear members,

I have asked few times in this forum about RAV and unemployment insurance. This work is stressing me a lot during my final pregnancy stage. I m 39 week pregnant and too much stressed.

I submitted all documents ( forms, salary statements, doctor’s certificates) since January. After working on those documents for three times, I thought everything would be adequate.

Yesterday again I got one letter from Arbeitlosenkasse, asking me to submit all the work list of all my employers and fill a pretty long form by my doctor. And a questionnaire on why I terminated my jobs.

About me: I worked as private household cleaner for about eight families from December 2018. My works were 2-4 hrs per week for each family. I had to stop working for 7 families from July 2019 because of my pregnancy complications. I carried out with one family till December 2019 to compete the 12 month work requirement for RAV registration. That also means I worked only for 2-3 hours per week, or less in December due to holiday. My total monthly salary till July was around 2000 Franken. But after July it was just between 200-300 Fr. or less when I was absent or holiday.

I read from RAV website that we need at least 500 CHF monthly salary to claim the benefits. Now I am confused how their calculations work. Does It calculate on the basis of total earning of 12 months, or is it compulsory to have earned atleast 500 in all months? Does working just 3 hrs in a month( December) help to fulfill the 12 months requirement? If the second is the case, I don’t see any sense to use so much energy and time to get the documents asked to submit now. Asking documents from various employers with whom I lost contact for long time is very difficult and also I need to find a separate appointment with doctor to fill the form ( to medically prove that I was not fit to work physically laborious works).

I don’t know why the Arbeitlosenkasse wants to see all the work list, although it has already received all details of salary statements.

My questions: on the basis of the above situation:
1. Do you think it is reasonable to work on the requested documents and submit? Do you think there is a slight chance that I will have any benefits?

2. I had to terminate the jobs mutually or by myself due to the work nature and pregnancy complications. I have doctor’s certificates for these. Do you think my argumentations ( pregnancy) is adequate to waive the RAV penalty ( no payment upto 60 days)?

3. Why do they want to have list of all works I did for all employers? Is there a different requirement for part time/ hourly wage earners?
It's quite possible you will get paid, they need to calculate the amount.

If you were unable to work, then they may argue you are not available to work so not entitled to benefits until you recover.

It's important to have a list from you as the AVS may not have been paid by your employers yet, it's often paid a year late.
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Re: Unemployment benefits for part time worker and RAV calculations.

"I read from RAV website that we need at least 500 CHF monthly salary to claim the benefits. Now I am confused how their calculations work. Does It calculate on the basis of total earning of 12 months, or is it compulsory to have earned at least 500 in all months? Does working just 3 hrs in a month( December) help to fulfill the 12 months requirement?"

It is calculated as an average. Please see this translation from the AVIG Praxis ALE, available at the below link (in German):

"C14 Earnings are not insured if they do not reach an average of CHF 500 per month during the assessment period. Earnings from several employment relationships are added together and may also be below the minimum limit in the individual contribution months.

Example The insured person earns CHF 400 per month in the last 4 contribution months before the start of unemployment and CHF 800 per month in the preceding 2 contribution months. Calculation: CHF 3200/ 6 = CHF 533. The earnings are therefore insured. "

https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/de/...ig-praxis.html

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Re: Unemployment benefits for part time worker and RAV calculations.

Thank you so much for your guidance. It all happened because I was very new to switzerland last year when I started working and didn't really focus on knowing the employment rules and rights. I have just realized that my employers have not paid me during my sick leave which was from July to september 2019. I have sick leave for that. I assumed that I am not entitled to any pay if I don't work, either for personal reason or illness. I have read from people on forum that all employees in switzerland are entitled for full pay for certain time during sick leave. Can you please guide me on that? How can i claim for it now? I was in the first year service for them, so I am entitled for three weeks pay? Am I correct ? I really need some guidance on this...
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Denial of payment during sick leave- overdue

I am posing it here as new thread as I donít get any response for it.

It all happened because I was very new to switzerland last year when I started working as domestic helper for various families and didn't really focus on knowing the employment rules and rights.

I was on sick leave for two months . I have just realized that my employers have not paid me during my sick leave which was from July to september 2019. I have sick leave for that. I assumed that I am not entitled to any pay if I don't work, either for personal reason or illness. I have read from people on forum that all employees in switzerland are entitled for full pay for certain time during sick leave. Can you please guide me on that? How can i claim for it now? I was in the first year service for them, so I am entitled for three weeks pay? Am I correct ? I really need some guidance on this...

For one employer, we had no Written contract, but I was registered legally. Since there is no any written document to claim for the sick pay, am I still entitled to ask her for the sick payment?

How shall I approach them to ask? Is there any office from where I can seek assistance?
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Re: Denial of payment during sick leave- overdue

What was the construction of employment?

Self-Employment, Payroll, Agency etc..?
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Re: Denial of payment during sick leave- overdue

I was employed by the employers privately and they use some agencies to declare me and pay the contribution ( eg: quitt.ch)
 




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