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COVID - Government Aid for small businesses

Hi. The Swiss government announced Friday that it would deploy an emergency economic-aid package of roughly 10 billion francs for workers and small businesses.

Does anyone have any information about how to access this economic-aid? Or the requirements that will need to be met?

Can we start this as a thread to share information and for discussion around the topic, for people needing to access it or with more information and/or guidance on how to best proceed and successfully apply.

We're a start up and our customers are Airlines... so clearly this is an absolutely critical issue for us.

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Stundenlohn and COVID-19 situation

Dear all,

My partner works as a waiter in a restaurant in Basel-Stadt on stundenlohn basis.
As the restaurant might be closed next week due to the current COVID-19 situation I am wondering what steps we could take in order to get financial support.

It might be a bit challenging to live for 2 (or more?) months from one salary and I am not sure if hourly-wage-employees can benefit from anything.

Thanks,
Mat
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Re: Stundenlohn and COVID-19 situation

Me and my husband are both in the same situation. No work as of now. Our employers have applied for “Kurzarbeit”, but no idea if we’ll get anything from that. Wondering if we can get anything from RAV?
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Re: Stundenlohn and COVID-19 situation

I'm sorry to hear that! Perhaps we can post here any developments. I'm sure there's gonna be more people in a similar situation.
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Re: Stundenlohn and COVID-19 situation

For hourly employees who aren't getting work, short-time-work (Kurzarbeit) might be a viable approach to bring in income during the virus crisis. This Swiss authorities online page explains it and compares it to RAV unemployment compensation (English):

https://www.ch.ch/en/short-time-work/

If the employer terminates the employee, the hourly employee could apply for RAV unemployment compensation provided the employee has worked at least one year in the past two. There could be a wait period of up to 20 days.

The employee could also resign and apply for RAV unemployment compensation, provided the employee has worked at least one year in the past two. However, up to 60 penalty days could be assessed in addition to the wait days.

Generally, the Kurzarbeit approach might be best for an employee with a permanent contract (see below).

Also see this short EF thread from yesterday:

https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...usinesses.html

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Kurzarbeit currently applies only to employees who have a permanent employment contract. However, the Swiss Federal Council has directed SECO (Economics Department) to develop regulations to allow Kurzarbeit to apply to employees with fixed work contracts and temporary work contracts, i.e., employment contracts with staffing companies. The new regulations are to be drawn up by 20 March.

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Re: Stundenlohn and COVID-19 situation

Thank you,@Mullhollander! This is what I also found out.

It seems like the Kurzarbeit is the best option, however, from what I hear from my partner, the employer reaction was so far: "Hard times are approaching and we all have to care for our own business." He's rather not willing to apply for the Kurzarbeit for him, and as far as I'm concerned he's not obliged to do so.

Another scenario would be that he let him go so there won't be penalty from RAV.
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Re: COVID - Government Aid for small businesses

Hello all, any idea where I can go to find info about help for self-employed persons? I'm a one man band enterprise (small business, English teacher with school rooms), my students (mostly adults) are starting to cancel their lessons.



The links already here seem to be just for employers with employees.


Much appreciated. Stay healthy and panic free.
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Re: COVID - Government Aid for small businesses

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Dear all,

My partner works as a waiter in a restaurant in Basel-Stadt on stundenlohn basis.
As the restaurant might be closed next week due to the current COVID-19 situation I am wondering what steps we could take in order to get financial support.

It might be a bit challenging to live for 2 (or more?) months from one salary and I am not sure if hourly-wage-employees can benefit from anything.

Thanks,
Mat
My son - who reads German - says Basel-Stadt has set aside 10M Chf to help businesses. Unlike the federal 10B CHF, which I understand to be a loan, BS will make grants. I do not know the details - perhaps check bs.ch.
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Hello all, any idea where I can go to find info about help for self-employed persons? I'm a one man band enterprise (small business, English teacher with school rooms), my students (mostly adults) are starting to cancel their lessons.

The links already here seem to be just for employers with employees.

Much appreciated. Stay healthy and panic free.

There are three components to the Swiss Federal government's special financial support program of CHF 10 billion:

1. Short-time-work (Kurzarbeit): this is for CHF 8 billion and is discussed above.

2. Loan Guaranties: The Bund is proposing to guarantee bank loans through four guaranty organizations. The total amount of the guaranties would be CHF 580 million.

3. Hardship Financing: There is a proposal for the Bund to offer short-term financing, either as loans and/ or grants, to SMEs, including self-employed, for those in dire straits. The form that this part of the financial support program for CHF 1 billion will take is unclear and will need to be hammered out in the coming weeks. Please see the discussion in this NZZ article (German):

Added: this article also mentions that the Bund could possibly direct a delay in tax and fee payments, e.g., VAT, to assist businesses with liquidity issues but surprisingly this option is currently not on the agenda.

https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/coronavir...aft-ld.1546354
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Re: COVID - Government Aid for small businesses

According to the below NZZ article, a large part of the CHF 10 billion will flow to short-time-work support (Kurzarbeit). Already 550 companies have applied for short-time-work support with upwards of 10'000 employees:

https://www.nzz.ch/zuerich/coronavir...men-ld.1546294

For information on applying for short-time-work support, see this link (English):

https://www.ch.ch/en/short-time-work/


At this link are forms to complete to apply for short-time-work. Two key forms are called:


Voranmeldung von Kurzarbeit

Antrag auf Kurzarbeitsentschädigung


https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/en/...haedigung.html
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Re: COVID - Government Aid for small businesses

This is an overview of Corona Virus financial support from SECO, which includes but extends beyond short-time-work support (German):

https://www.seco.admin.ch/seco/de/ho...ronavirus.html
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