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What am I entitled too expat

I’m an expat living in Switzerland for one year L permit.
I’m currently out of work because of the virus what am I entitled to government benefit wise?

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Old 19.03.2020, 13:11
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Re: What am I entitled too expat

What country are you from ? What work do you do ? How much savings do you have ?
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Old 19.03.2020, 13:19
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Re: What am I entitled too expat

Normally you would have had to work for 12 months here to be entitled to unemployment money. However, previous work in other EU countries could count towards this. So check that out
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Old 19.03.2020, 13:23
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Re: What am I entitled too expat

Were you fired?

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Old 19.03.2020, 13:26
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Re: What am I entitled too expat

I had understood you were here for an apprenticeship. Typically, apprentice contracts have special conditions protecting against dismissal (it is still possible, but much less so than a regular employment contract).

If I've got that part right, then what does your Lehrverantwortlicher (person in charge of apprentices) say will happen next?
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Old 19.03.2020, 13:38
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I had understood you were here for an apprenticeship. Typically, apprentice contracts have special conditions protecting against dismissal (it is still possible, but much less so than a regular employment contract).
My daughter is doing an apprenticeship, they closed on Monday, so was moved to vacation (only two days, today and tomorrow being public holidays).

Yesterday, her trainer found her a stage at a local old people's home / hospital (as a chef), to start on Monday for the interim, so that she doesn't need to use up her vacation days.

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Re: What am I entitled too expat

Tom, does this mean she is still employed by the same apprenticeship employer, and still receiving her apprentice's salary, during that time?

If yes, do you know whether the employer is being generous, or whether they must pay her her salary?
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Old 19.03.2020, 13:42
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Re: What am I entitled too expat

Normally on an L-permit you are entitled nothing at all. If you lose your job, you go home. However maybe they will change that due to the situation. New rules are supposed to be coming on Friday about changes to Kurzarbeit etc.
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Old 19.03.2020, 13:46
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Tom, does this mean she is still employed by the same apprenticeship employer, and still receiving her apprentice's salary, during that time?
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If yes, do you know whether the employer is being generous, or whether they must pay her her salary?
She should have been doing a stage sometime soon (paid for by the employer), so this kills two birds with one stone.

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Re: What am I entitled too expat

Given the virus situation, I don't know if there are any protections at federal level yet, but the Canton I'm in has started to put in place things because of the situation. If you've had to reduce hours because of the virus, unemployment compensates, at least that is what is being done in VD at the moment, but it is constantly changing, stay tuned.
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Your best bet might be to check out job offerings, Aldi and a lot of companies are looking for help to either keep their stores properly supplied or for the online sales to be able to keep up. Hardly any experience or anything needed.
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Time to go home.
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Time to go home.
If you still can, I can´t. And actually this is home
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Re: What am I entitled too expat

If I understand Edwin corrrectly, Justin cannot now go home to the UK.
https://www.englishforum.ch/3160674-post114.html

Justin, to be eligible for unemployment benefits, you have to have have already worked here and contributed to the unemployment insurance fund for at least two years. I think that means that option isn't applicable to you.

Your other options are to go to the Social Security office and ask for help. As you are here legally, you may very well be given emergency help.

If I were in your shoes, I would start by going to Caritas, to which you were referred in one of your other threads, as they will know how to help you apply for which help.
https://www.englishforum.ch/3140794-post4.html
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to be eligible for unemployment benefits, you have to have have already worked here and contributed to the unemployment insurance fund for at least two years.
Wrong, 12 months in the past 24.

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If I understand Edwin corrrectly, Justin cannot now go home to the UK.
https://www.englishforum.ch/3160674-post114.html
Yes he can. Info direct from embassy.
https://www.facebook.com/17381222864...981071230/?d=n
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Old 19.03.2020, 20:32
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Yes he can. Info direct from embassy.
https://www.facebook.com/17381222864...981071230/?d=n
He can, in principle and technically. It seems he cannot go or rather does not want to go for different reasons mentioned in other posts, at least he says so.
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If you still can, I can´t. And actually this is home
Like that . My closest friend is a Swiss teacher that works within the Asyl system, teaching doctors as well as analphabets from differing countries in one class German. We discussed already 3 weeks ago whether we should cancel our planned Saturday night get-together. She said that it was impossible in their learning environment to keep a distance between students, and closed bins for disposing used tissues were anyway not available, and my daughter goes to Uni, which was the first Zurich hot-spot, so we cancelled, and decided to wait to see what would come.

Also took into account that her elderly Swiss Mom had just returned from the Canary Islands, and had been staying very near that hotel that had lockdown.

Oh, how long ago that all seems now...

Now my friend cannot return to the place that she actually calls home, the very simple place she has planned for her retirement (inherited), and lives in during school vacations (in Spain). Her husband is holed-up in Costa Rica (his homeland), as the crisis just came at that time that he had to visit his ailing mother. He‘s an unemployed LKW driver, due to his lack of the language, and only finds work, when available, in Spain.

Her cheap Oerlikon apartment had just been „gekündigt“, as they want to tear it down and build something new.

But, at least she says that she is on a fixed contract, so her salary is currently guaranteed, although they now have to distribute the lessons by mail (her speciality is in teaching analphabets).

Guess that everything is relative, she keeps a brave face and remains positive, and our idea of „home“ is an important part of us that doesn‘t change...

Even in the worst times.
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Re: What am I entitled too expat

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Normally on an L-permit you are entitled nothing at all. If you lose your job, you go home.
That is absolutely not true. You can have L-Permit for many years (multiple renewals) and you fall into the normal benefits rules. I used to have 6-month L-Permits for 4.5 years, and when I stayed unemployed for a bit, I received unemployment benefits from the state. Now if the OP is less than a year in Switzerland, that does not apply to him obviously.

Not sure if they are going to make exceptions though, during these weird times we are in.
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Re: What am I entitled too expat

Justin, if you are still reading this thread, and if you are not (as some have suspected) just a troll, then please, please, get yourself some help.

One of the wonderful things about Switzerland is that, more or less, it doesn't matter which advice-centre or government department you ask, to start with. They are very likely to be able to re-direct you to the right place that is officially in charge of people with circumastances like yours.

Therefore, I recommend that you try one of the following:
  • call an official person or helper with whom you've already had dealings, e.g.
    • your doctor after you were attacked,
    • the police who're processing your case,
  • ask your [former] employer/Lehrmeister for advice
  • re-read all of your threads here on the forum, and just pick any one of those help-centres, hotlines, etc.

My main advice is still to
  • speak to your manager, and/or
  • contact Caritas.

Also, in as far as you can face doing it, try to get your papers in order. Even if you can't, have them ready in a bag, to take along to any one of the advice-centres that agrees to see you.

Just start somewhere. And then follow through.
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