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01.04.2020, 12:05
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| | Kurzarbeit and side gigs?
Another post that really IS for a friend:
Said friend works a 50% job and has just been put on Kurzarbeit.
Prior to the crisis, she also did a Nebenjob, tutoring about an hour or two per week.
With the crisis she has received offers for additional tutoring jobs, probably amounting to 15 or so hours per week. These would be temporary jobs, lasting only as long as the schools are closed through the crisis.
Would taking on these additional Nebenjobs affect her Kurzarbeit status with her main job? While the Nebenjob money would come in handy now, she doesn't want to jeopardize her main job.
Many thanks.
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01.04.2020, 12:19
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| | Re: Kurzarbeit and side gigs? | Quote: | |  | | | Another post that really IS for a friend:
Said friend works a 50% job and has just been put on Kurzarbeit.
Prior to the crisis, she also did a Nebenjob, tutoring about an hour or two per week.
With the crisis she has received offers for additional tutoring jobs, probably amounting to 15 or so hours per week. These would be temporary jobs, lasting only as long as the schools are closed through the crisis.
Would taking on these additional Nebenjobs affect her Kurzarbeit status with her main job? While the Nebenjob money would come in handy now, she doesn't want to jeopardize her main job.
Many thanks. | | | | | Seems to me that a) she did that before and hopefully paid taxes on it. b) the job she is on Kurzarbeit now has always been a 50% job.
So as long as she doesn't do more than 50% tutoring (which would be 21.25 hours a week to be on the safe side) this should not be a problem.
As before Kurzarbeit, she is free to do what she wants with the other 50% - as long as she pays taxes on it.
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01.04.2020, 12:23
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My answer has no legal backing- but I'd say that as long as temporary jobs don't amount to more than 50%- she should be OK, That 50% is her free time. Very interested in the answer though.
There are 10s of 1000s of people out there, be it here, or other countries- who have been doing private tuition, cleaning, gardening, coaching, etc, etc, etc- without declaring it or paying tax on it, etc. They are going to be caught out BIG time (massive in fact).
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01.04.2020, 12:53
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Working more at another job will reduce the money she gets for Kurzarbeit, no further legal effects.
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01.04.2020, 12:58
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Link?
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01.04.2020, 13:04
| | Re: Kurzarbeit and side gigs? | Quote: |  | | | Link? | | | | | Common Sense.
But here in an article: (German)
"Wer will, kann sich bei Kurzarbeit einen Nebenjob suchen. Hierbei gilt: Zusatzverdienste erhöhen das bei der Berechnung des Kurzarbeitergeldes zugrunde zu legende Istentgelt. "Die Differenz zum Sollentgelt sinkt und damit auch die Höhe des Kurzarbeitergeldes"" https://www.gmx.ch/magazine/ratgeber...ungen-34319382
Would be insanity going down 80% in time, keep 84% of income and work across the street at another company ending up with 100% work time and 164% income. Luckily that is not how it works. It is based on loss of total income and not on loss of income of strictly that one job.
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01.04.2020, 13:07
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| | Re: Kurzarbeit and side gigs? | Quote: |  | | | My answer has no legal backing- but I'd say that as long as temporary jobs don't amount to more than 50%- she should be OK, That 50% is her free time. Very interested in the answer though.
There are 10s of 1000s of people out there, be it here, or other countries- who have been doing private tuition, cleaning, gardening, coaching, etc, etc, etc- without declaring it or paying tax on it, etc. They are going to be caught out BIG time (massive in fact). | | | | | That would be correct as you can be 50% self employed & 50% unemployed or any tiny proportion part time self employed quite legal when with the RAV, that proportion can keep changing.
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01.04.2020, 13:58
| | Re: Kurzarbeit and side gigs? | Quote: |  | | | Common Sense.
But here in an article: (German)
"Wer will, kann sich bei Kurzarbeit einen Nebenjob suchen. Hierbei gilt: Zusatzverdienste erhöhen das bei der Berechnung des Kurzarbeitergeldes zugrunde zu legende Istentgelt. "Die Differenz zum Sollentgelt sinkt und damit auch die Höhe des Kurzarbeitergeldes"" https://www.gmx.ch/magazine/ratgeber...ungen-34319382
Would be insanity going down 80% in time, keep 84% of income and work across the street at another company ending up with 100% work time and 164% income. Luckily that is not how it works. It is based on loss of total income and not on loss of income of strictly that one job. | | | | | Absolutely if the person has a 100% contract- but this friend of Melon is claming Kurzarbeit on a 50% contract- so 50%, to my mind, is hers to do what she wants with.
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