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Old 15.04.2020, 19:08
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Kurzarbeit when ANOBAG? Can a foreign company apply for kurzarbeit

Hi,

I've been working 100% as an economist for a company based in the UK for over 16 months now. The company doesn't have a base in Switzerland, which makes me an ANOBAG according to the Swiss legislation. I'm not a freelancer, I have a 100% contract and pay my AHV, IV, EO and ALV contributions (50% paid by the company).

Because of the coronavirus crisis, the company wants to reduce my hours to 50%. My question is, can a foreign company apply for kurzarbeit (short-time work scheme)? If the answer is yes, then what's the procedure?

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Carlos.
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Old 15.04.2020, 20:18
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Re: Kurzarbeit when ANOBAG? Can a foreign company apply for kurzarbeit

At the risk of being wrong, it would seem that your company could apply for Kurzarbeit for its sole Swiss employee (you) following the standard procedures.

The Ct. Zurich Office for Economy and Labour website has a step-by-step guide to apply for Kurzarbeit at this link (English):

https://awa.zh.ch/internet/volkswirt...-erklaert.html

You/ your company will need to complete a Voranmeldung form and then have it signed and stamped by a company representative. It is available as an Excel document at the above link in German.
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Re: Kurzarbeit when ANOBAG? Can a foreign company apply for kurzarbeit

Thank you Mullhollander.

I will call the office of economy and labor tomorrow, and if I can't get an answer I will just tell my employer to try and then I'll provide an update over here in case there are other ANOBAGs in a similar situation.

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Re: Kurzarbeit when ANOBAG? Can a foreign company apply for kurzarbeit

hey, i'm in the same situation as you. haven't heard back from the authorities, was wondering if you managed to get kurzarbeit approved for your position? any insights are welcome! thank you
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Re: Kurzarbeit when ANOBAG? Can a foreign company apply for kurzarbeit

Good Morning,
I'm in the same situation, Airline pilot working for a foreign company, base in Switzerland as Anobag.

Due to the Covid, I have no income since March and it might last until the end of the year.
Do you know how I can get any benefits from unemployement , kurzarbeit for this period ?

Many thanks
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Re: Kurzarbeit when ANOBAG? Can a foreign company apply for kurzarbeit

Hello
I have been working for an English company for 13 years, a company which has no base in Switzerland, I live in Switzerland, I am an employee and pay all the charges (AVS, etc.) in Switzerland. I have the status of Anobag.
I find myself in the same situation. The company reduces my working time due to the lack of activity. Have you had positive feedback on your requests for partial unemployment or kurzarbeit in Switzerland as Anobag?
Thank you for your help and advice because apparently nothing has been planned for our cases ??
Thanks for your feedback.
Daniel
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Re: Kurzarbeit when ANOBAG? Can a foreign company apply for kurzarbeit

Crowe, an accounting firm in Zurich, says this on its website (translated):

"Can an ANOBAG claim short-time work?

As these so-called ANOBAG's (employees without an employer liable to pay contributions) are subject to unemployment insurance as dependent employees and pay corresponding contributions, it must be assumed that short-time work is possible. Clarification in the individual case is important."

https://www.crowe.com/ch/zh/news/faq...g-mit-covid-19
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Re: Kurzarbeit when ANOBAG? Can a foreign company apply for kurzarbeit

Hello Mullholander


Thank you for your quick response.
it seems difficult to get acceptance of an Anobag employee status for a self employed status in order to benefit assistance for part-time work.
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Hello Mullholander
Thank you for your quick response.
it seems difficult to get acceptance of an Anobag employee status for a self employed status in order to benefit assistance for part-time work.

My comments:
1. An individual under Anobag is an employee, not self-employed.
- You should be applying for Kurzarbeit as an employee and not as self-employed.
2. Your next step should likely be to complete the Excel application form at post 2 above, then have your company stamp and sign it.
3. Sometimes an issue is that foreign employers view their Swiss Anobag employees as contractors/ self-employed and don't wish to sign Swiss documents acknowledging that they are the employer.

Good luck working through this!
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Re: Kurzarbeit when ANOBAG? Can a foreign company apply for kurzarbeit

Hello Mullholander
Thank you for all your information.
Apparently the link in your post 2 no longer links to the same page.
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Hello Mullholander
Thank you for all your information.
Apparently the link in your post 2 no longer links to the same page.

The Ct. Zurich link is not working today.

For Ct. Fribourg, try this link:

https://www.fr.ch/de/arbeit-und-unte...eit/kurzarbeit
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Re: Kurzarbeit when ANOBAG? Can a foreign company apply for kurzarbeit

Hi all,
I am also an ANOBAG, an employer in Germany and UK, mostly work from home (Switzerland), but also in the EU such as D, A and CZ. Because of Covid-19 I'm on short-time work since March 2020. The Arbeitslosenversicherung Kanton Zürich approved it beginning of April. I received Money from April till September 2020. But middle of October 2020 I received a letter from Amt für Wirtschaft und Arbeit, the decision that the April ruling should be revoked, with reference to Regulation (EC) No. 883/2004.
If I do not raise an objection, I would have to refund the money paid.
Who is in the same Position?
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