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New unemployment timeframe when current timeframe runs out?

Dear all,

Here is my situation:

I applied for the first time for unemployement benefits on 01.10.2018 (I worked for more than 2 years beforehand). They opened a timeframe from 01.10.2018 to 30.09.2020. I was on unemployement only for 3 months. Then I found a job and worked the whole 2019 for one year. Since 01.01.2020 I am again on unemployement benefits. The current timeframe will finish by the end of September. My question is what happens next? Is it possible to open a new timeframe from October 2020 onwards, given that I have worked exactly 12 months in the two years period before that date (01.10.2018-01.10.2020)?

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Re: New unemployment timeframe when current timeframe runs out?

Based on your input, it would appear that you would be in a good position to obtain a new frame period when the old one expires if you haven't found a job by month-end September. The ALE Unemployment Compensation guidelines state (translated):

"New Frame Periods

B48 A new frame period for benefits may be opened no earlier than the end of the old frame period for benefits.

B49 If the frame period for receiving benefits has expired and the insured person claims benefits again or continues to claim benefits, the unemployment insurance fund must check whether all eligibility criteria are met in order to open a new reference period for receiving benefits.

If the new reference period for the receipt of benefits immediately follows the old one, it may begin on a Saturday or Sunday."

https://www.koordination.ch/fileadmi...-b/ale_b35.pdf
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Re: New unemployment timeframe when current timeframe runs out?

If I remember correctly the current timeframe will be extended because of the virus, so your current period will run past oct. 2020.

https://www.koordination.ch/de/onlin...19-alv/#c66287

Somewhere in the middle of the first section it answers this.

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https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/de/.../pandemie.html
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Re: New unemployment timeframe when current timeframe runs out?

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Dear all,

Here is my situation:

I applied for the first time for unemployement benefits on 01.10.2018 (I worked for more than 2 years beforehand). They opened a timeframe from 01.10.2018 to 30.09.2020. I was on unemployement only for 3 months. Then I found a job and worked the whole 2019 for one year. Since 01.01.2020 I am again on unemployement benefits. The current timeframe will finish by the end of September. My question is what happens next? Is it possible to open a new timeframe from October 2020 onwards, given that I have worked exactly 12 months in the two years period before that date (01.10.2018-01.10.2020)?

Thanks for your replies in advance
The only relevant question is when you try to open a rahmenfrist is 'have you worked at least 12 months in the previous 24 months'. I had 4 rahemfrists over 9 years so it's not an issue as long as you have worked,
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Re: New unemployment timeframe when current timeframe runs out?

Even if you can, if you were unemployed for the past 9 months, your average salary over the past 12 will be quite low.

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Re: New unemployment timeframe when current timeframe runs out?

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If I remember correctly the current timeframe will be extended because of the virus, so your current period will run past oct. 2020.

https://www.koordination.ch/de/onlin...19-alv/#c66287

Somewhere in the middle of the first section it answers this.

See also

https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/de/.../pandemie.html
Thanks. From what I see on my latest unemployement payment slip, they do not increase the timeframe more than 2 years. They have increased the number of daily allowances by 90 days, however in my case they will remain unsued.
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Even if you can, if you were unemployed for the past 9 months, your average salary over the past 12 will be quite low.

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Oh, really? I thought they consider your income before you become unemployed:

"The insured gain corresponds to the average of your gross salary for the last 6 months preceding unemployment. If the average of your salary over the last 12 months gives a higher insured gain, it is the latter that will be retained"

Did you have personally an experience opening a new timeframe?
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The only relevant question is when you try to open a rahmenfrist is 'have you worked at least 12 months in the previous 24 months'. I had 4 rahemfrists over 9 years so it's not an issue as long as you have worked,
Thanks! Do you remeber how they have calculated your salary for the new timefram?
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Even if you can, if you were unemployed for the past 9 months, your average salary over the past 12 will be quite low.

Tom
No this is not the case. Just to clarify for people with the same question:
I just called unemployment fund office: when they open a new timefram, they take into account the salary when you were employed (not the months you were unemployed). This rule is mentioned in the last paragraph of this website:

https://www.guidechomage.ch/articles...le-gain-assure

English translation:

Guaranteed gain for a new right to unemployment

When a second framework period is opened immediately after the first, the insured gain is calculated on the basis of income earned during the contribution periods of the first framework period of compensation, namely:

intermediate earnings as long as they average 500 francs a month or 300 francs for homeworkers. Several work reports add up.
income from fixed employment, etc.


So since I did not have intermediate earnings basically the insured gain of the second window should remain the same as the first one. (hopefully)

The problem is that I see much less job opening these days, most of the positions are freezed until the situation will become normal.That is why I am a bit skeptical finding a job until September.
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