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Straight to the chase. I do have an employment history that can be backed with good references from every employer I worked for. Some time ago I have managed to get a job in Switzerland, but at the end of my probation period my contract got cancelled. Myself and the business - we simply did not go that well together (the only such experience in my past). I went back home and successfully did some other gigs. Right now I am thinking about coming back to Switzerland but I am not sure whether to include that unfortunate experience in my CV or not? Is it possible for a new employer to figure out that I do indeed have my Swiss past?


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Re: Omitting past employment.

I don't think, anyone would dig deeper, if you wrote "world trip" or some such on your CV for the time of the "gap".
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Re: Omitting past employment.

Tell the truth, but perhaps not all of it. You will have a history here if they look hard enough. Mention your employment but that you left by mutual agreement at the end of the probation period. This will not be a surprise, nor would the lack of a reference letter.

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Re: Omitting past employment.

If you worked here before then you would have had a residence permit, which fact will be significant in any future employer's application for a new permit for you, so if you "forget" to mention it they will almost certainly find out.
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Re: Omitting past employment.

I actually think it would count in your favour - you came to Switzerland, you have an idea of what that means, how the country works and what to expect - meaning you will be less 'shocked' next time.


And the job, it's absolutely fine to say it was not a 'mutual fit' - it's so normal in Switzerland to start and end contracts, it's not the same as in the UK or Australia as being 'fired'
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Hi everyone,


Straight to the chase. I do have an employment history that can be backed with good references from every employer I worked for. Some time ago I have managed to get a job in Switzerland, but at the end of my probation period my contract got cancelled. Myself and the business - we simply did not go that well together (the only such experience in my past). I went back home and successfully did some other gigs. Right now I am thinking about coming back to Switzerland but I am not sure whether to include that unfortunate experience in my CV or not? Is it possible for a new employer to figure out that I do indeed have my Swiss past?


Kind regards.
What kind of job? If you're signing a document where you authorize them to dig in your past, even a record of a traffic fine (less than 5 years old) will appear.

If it's a more relaxed job, they may find out anyway when they request your job permit to cantonal authorities. There should be a record that you had a permit in the past.
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Tell the truth, but perhaps not all of it. You will have a history here if they look hard enough. Mention your employment but that you left by mutual agreement at the end of the probation period. This will not be a surprise, nor would the lack of a reference letter.

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If you worked here before then you would have had a residence permit, which fact will be significant in any future employer's application for a new permit for you, so if you "forget" to mention it they will almost certainly find out.

And you will have an AHV number :-)


Leaving a job after a short stint can be explained and is not a disaster.
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Old 13.05.2020, 09:56
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I don't think, anyone would dig deeper, if you wrote "world trip" or some such on your CV for the time of the "gap".
Why is it that people seem to think that the interviewer, HR manager, policeman, fraud investigator, etc will have never heard of their cunning plan?
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Re: Omitting past employment.

I'm seeing so many similar queries right now, from folks who have chosen or are considering to omit past roles from their CV's and are now checking in publicly as to whether this is alright to do.

In most instances, it is not ok. A good quality background check will likely find it. And too often, it slips out in conversation once someone is in their new role. If its something from 10 years ago or more, then you'll probably get away with it.

For sure, as a hiring leader, I'd be mighty p'd that someone had lied on their CV. Instantly it would erode my trust, and that's not going to make for a happy, long term work relationship. Depending on the timing for when I find this out, I would withdraw the job offer and/or ensure you don't pass your probation period.

Many people have had work "mistakes" along the way and a decent prospective employer will appreciate that. Cultural fit / job not as described in the interview process / change of leaders before or shortly after starting / change in company's fortunes etc, etc - these are all perfectly normal things. Don't be getting caught up in too many of these "mistakes" though...

Additionally, one or two very short term gigs on your resume, when filled otherwise with nice lengths of tenure can actually create interest from recruiters/hiring managers - curiosity over the short term exceptions can have them singling you out for a call!

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Re: Omitting past employment.

Speaking from experience, do include it, and then put it to the back of your mind (easier said than done). It is not where you are at now. If a future employer fixes negatively on it then you probably do not want to work for them.
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Re: Omitting past employment.

It probably depends wat sort of job you are applying for and how much competition you are facing.

I know some individuals who have the most awful lies and fabrications in their CVs and nobody ever asks. Employers are more likely to look at your recent jobs closely and just gloss over the older stuff.
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Re: Omitting past employment.

Honesty is the best policy. If I even suspected that an applicant was being less than truthful the file wouldn’t even touch the edge of the bin.

Is there any downside to being truthful? As commented above working out a probationary period is not unusual here. Being less than honest is a sin.
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Re: Omitting past employment.

The truth will out.

Even if you get the job without having told them about that other, short stint, don't you think that one day you'll be chatting to a colleague (or your manager) over coffee and they'll say they've just bought x from Migros, and you'll let slip that you prefer the one from Coop, or that they're thinking of going to Interlaken and you'll be telling them about the Postauto you took up the mountain, from there... the last time you lived and worked in Switzerland?
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Re: Omitting past employment.

Thanks guys. The fact I have already had a residence permit and do have an AHV number would raise more suspicions than it's necessary.



On a footnote, I do not find it morally wrong not to disclose my whole past in the CV. First it is not a lie and second - why should we write anti-CV about ourselves? No one does that, not individuals, neither businesses. We try to learn from our past and move forward as better versions of ourselves. That was a minor event in my whole career, which even myself - first-hand witness - I find difficult to interpret in an objective manner, so why a third person, whom has never experienced the event, should wage my future by mis-/interpreting my past through projections of its own on it? That would have been very unfair to me and I do need to protect my own business, as no one else will do it for me.



Anyways, thanks guys for your time and help. Really appreciated. All the best!
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On a footnote, I do not find it morally wrong not to disclose my whole past in the CV. First it is not a lie and second - why should we write anti-CV about ourselves?
Well now unless you are going to leave a plank hold in your employment history and refuse to discuss the matter... it every hard to see how you would avoid a lie?????

You seem to have some kind of a big hang up out of some thing that is very common... you took a job, it did not work out... so what? It happens. The big issue would be to get caught telling a lie, about something so trivial... that would make people wonder.
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You seem to have some kind of a big hang up out of some thing that is very common... you took a job, it did not work out... so what? It happens. The big issue would be to get caught telling a lie, about something so trivial... that would make people wonder.

Yeah, I do have a big hang up about it, as I still do not understand what really happened at the time and why it did end up the way it did? I don't have issues admitting to a mistake on my part but in this situation I don't know how to interpret the reality? This makes any conversation about the topic very difficult for me, therefore I prefer to keep hidden. I think you are right - I took a job, it did not work, we have parted our ways, end of story.
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Yeah, I do have a big hang up about it, as I still do not understand what really happened at the time and why it did end up the way it did? I don't have issues admitting to a mistake on my part but in this situation I don't know how to interpret the reality? This makes any conversation about the topic very difficult for me, therefore I prefer to keep hidden. I think you are right - I took a job, it did not work, we have parted our ways, end of story.
So, why lie about it then? It is not a big thing.
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