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Garden leave and Transfer of RAV to another country

Hi Team,
I searched a lot of threads and did not find the answers to my question.

Yesterday had appointment with HR and witness and my contract after 10 years is terminated (mutual agreement).

I have been put in garden leave and there is a load of threads really useful for what that means.

Now my question: I have 3 months notice period what means i will be terminated 30th September.

Now what i did not find answers:

1)What is your experience looking for a job in another country while in RAV?

My idea is back to Porto (the IT market boomed last 3 years and is my hometown).

My research tells me i can apply for P2 (not surely correct the nomenclature) form and this gives me after 4 weeks on RAV a legal entitlement to look for a job in EU while in Swiss RAV for 3 months. Any comments or experience with this procedure?

2) Any knowledge of legal procedure or standard procedure or you know someone that negotiate leaving RAV meaning you do not know want to pursue finding a job in Switzerland but you want to terminate your permit (in my case C permit) and get some amount to leave the country?

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Re: Garden leave and Transfer of RAV to another country

RAV does not really care the location of the jobs you apply for, it can be abroad or based in CH.
Your advisor will tell you how many application is expected per week / month, that's what you need to keep in mind, the actual job can be based anywhere in the world.
But if your garden leave lasts until end of September, you don't want to get hired before that date. Just have all the evidences of your applications from the day you know your contract will be terminated.

First you need to spend one month in Switzerland on RAV (in your case it's October), then you can apply for the transfer of your unemployment benefits to another country (in your case, Portugal).
The process is not too complicated, guys from RAV will help you with that, you'll need to fill out a number of forms, as usual.
Then you'll receive the unemployment benefits from CH for three more months, while your're already in Portugal (Nov-Dec-Jan). Again, probably you don't want to get hired before Feb 2021, as your unemployment benefits (you get from CH) will be most probably higher than you Portuguese salary would be.
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Hi Team,
I searched a lot of threads and did not find the answers to my question.

Yesterday had appointment with HR and witness and my contract after 10 years is terminated (mutual agreement).

I have been put in garden leave and there is a load of threads really useful for what that means.

Now my question: I have 3 months notice period what means i will be terminated 30th September.

Now what i did not find answers:

1)What is your experience looking for a job in another country while in RAV?

My idea is back to Porto (the IT market boomed last 3 years and is my hometown).

My research tells me i can apply for P2 (not surely correct the nomenclature) form and this gives me after 4 weeks on RAV a legal entitlement to look for a job in EU while in Swiss RAV for 3 months. Any comments or experience with this procedure?

2) Any knowledge of legal procedure or standard procedure or you know someone that negotiate leaving RAV meaning you do not know want to pursue finding a job in Switzerland but you want to terminate your permit (in my case C permit) and get some amount to leave the country?

Thanks
You can apply globally from day 1, after 3 months you can export benefits for 90 days to any other EU state, after 90 days you can return to CH or say goodbye to any accumulated benefits as I did when I left CH
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You can apply globally from day 1, after 3 months you can export benefits for 90 days to any other EU state, after 90 days you can return to CH or say goodbye to any accumulated benefits as I did when I left CH
Why after 3 months?

I think i need to explain better the question:

Is not about applying globally, is transfer to Portugal. Instead of applying globally my question is about moving to another EU country in order to look for a job while in RAV but you got it
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Why after 3 months?

I think i need to explain better the question:

Is not about applying globally, is transfer to Portugal. Instead of applying globally my question is about moving to another EU country in order to look for a job while in RAV but you got it
Thats the rules, otherwise people would just go on a 3 month holiday is a sunny country & make no real attempt to get a job. You only have to do what the new country requires, that may well be close to zero as you will only be with them for 3 months maximum.
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Thats the rules, otherwise people would just go on a 3 month holiday is a sunny country & make no real attempt to get a job. You only have to do what the new country requires, that may well be close to zero as you will only be with them for 3 months maximum.
Now i understood what you said.

I registered on RAV today and i will have my RAV advisor meeting next week Thursday.

I will clarify and post here if i transfer my unemployments benefits to Portugal (November - January) will i have to folllow Portuguese RAV during notice period or Swiss.

Today on registration they could not answer me about this and is clear in Unia website:

https://www.unia.swiss/fileadmin/arb...r_PD-U1_EN.PDF

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You can apply globally from day 1, after 3 months you can export benefits for 90 days to any other EU state, after 90 days you can return to CH or say goodbye to any accumulated benefits as I did when I left CH
You can export RAV after 4 weeks.
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I will clarify and post here if i transfer my unemployments benefits to Portugal (November - January) will i have to folllow Portuguese RAV during notice period or Swiss.
You follow the Swiss rules when you are in Switzerland, you follow the Portugese rules when you are in Portugal.
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Re: Garden leave and Transfer of RAV to another country

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In reality that will never happen as you have to apply for approval then have an interview before being approved.
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In reality that will never happen as you have to apply for approval then have an interview before being approved.
You made it sound like it was a rule, the rule says 4 weeks.

Interviews are not mandatory (the ones I know who did this never had one), you send in a form and if they are o.k. with it you get the form PD U2 in return and all is settled.
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Re: Garden leave and Transfer of RAV to another country

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You made it sound like it was a rule, the rule says 4 weeks.

Interviews are not mandatory (the ones I know who did this never had one), you send in a form and if they are o.k. with it you get the form PD U2 in return and all is settled.
Was that in ZH? Historically only the RAV in Lagerstrasse dealt with this, you got transferred to that office & if you returned had to turn up at Lagerstrasse by a certain date.
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Re: Garden leave and Transfer of RAV to another country

Fatmanfilms is correct.

RAV in Vulkanstrasse (Zurich Kreis 9) is not competent about Transfer to EU.

I need to go to EU competenz zentrum in Lagerstrasse.

But this will be only possible after register with ArbeirlosKasse what is in last month of notice period.

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Re: Garden leave and Transfer of RAV to another country

EU-Kompetenzzentrum
RAV Zürich Lagerstrasse
Lagerstrasse 107
8004 Zürich
Tel. 043 259 65 65
E-Mail eures@vd.zh.ch

Wenn Sie Interesse an einem Leistungsexport in einen EU / EFTA Staat haben, konsultieren

Sie bitte als erstes die Broschüre „Leistungen bei Arbeitssuche im Ausland“ unter
https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/de/...oschueren.html

Bevor ein Termin mit uns vereinbart werden kann, müssen Sie den „Antrag auf Leistungen
bei Arbeitssuche im Ausland“ einreichen.

https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/de/...beitslose.html
Der Antrag auf Leistungsexport muss zwingend VOR Ausreise eingereicht werden.


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Re: Garden leave and Transfer of RAV to another country

Just a note on the process:

Everywhere says:

"Employer confirmations from the last two years
Always submit the necessary documents as early as possible and in full, so that your unemployment insurance fund can determine and pay out the benefits to which you are entitled as quickly as possible."

But employer can only give this document on last month of notice. In my case is September. Funny stuff
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Re: Garden leave and Transfer of RAV to another country

I would time the move to PT with the end of apartment lease. This way you will get higher CH unemployment benefits while you are still paying your apartment. With the Covid situation i can imagine first interviews are online anyway, so no need to be in PT for that.
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I really appreciate the effort of this forum to make people more comfortable.
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Re: Garden leave and Transfer of RAV to another country

Thanks to all.

News:

My RAV (not RAV, but my unemployment) starts 1st October but i have found a job in Portugal starting 1st November.

Not sure if makes sense to apply for RAV or not but probably not, as i know there is waiting days.

So if everything goes well, after 10 years i am moving to Portugal.

I will open a lot of rants then
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Did you compare the unemployment benefits that you would get vs. the salary at your new position? Wouldn't it be better for you to transfer the benefits for three months first, as planned, and then take the new position afterwards?
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Did you compare the unemployment benefits that you would get vs. the salary at your new position? Wouldn't it be better for you to transfer the benefits for three months first, as planned, and then take the new position afterwards?
That would mean to start working February 2021. That could be an option.

But since i got the job and it is interesting i prefer to start and work
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