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Old 20.06.2020, 16:04
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Unemployment insurance fined days

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Could someone help me with the translation ? Am I being fined 31 days or is my unemployment insurance reduced to 31 days ?


I tried google translate and it says I am eligible for 31 days but one of my friends said I am fined for 31 days. Here is the german version


Sie werden deshalb in der anspruchsberechtigung eingestellt, wobei sich eine einstelldauer 31 tagen als angemessen erweist. Die einstellung gilt nur fur tage, fur welche die versicherte person die voraussetzungen der anspruchberechtigung erfult

Daher wird verfügt

sie werden ab 01.02.2020 für 31 tage in der anspruchsberechtigung eingestellt
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Old 20.06.2020, 17:25
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Re: Unemployment insurance fined days

The verb einstellen has various meanings which can be confusing. It can mean to hire, to terminate, to suspend and a few other things. In this case, it means suspended or penalized:

"You will therefore be suspended in your eligibility, whereby a suspension period of 31 days will prove to be appropriate. The suspension is only valid for days for which the insured person meets the eligibility requirements.

The following is therefore ordered
you will be suspended from 01.02.2020 for 31 days of eligibility."
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Re: Unemployment insurance fined days

Yep so you are suspended payment for 31 days, but you will have to keep looking for a new job and follow all rules etc (this is what the second part means, you still have to comply and play nice)
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Old 23.06.2020, 12:48
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Unemployment Payment Explanation

Hi,

Can somebody explain the terms here ? I ended up getting zero CHF
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Re: Unemployment Payment Explanation

22 working days in the month.

15 waiting days till your unemployment money kicks in.
7 days of being fined.

Since you are fined a total of 31 days you'll also be getting zero next month.
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Re: Unemployment Payment Explanation

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22 working days in the month.

15 waiting days till your unemployment money kicks in.
7 days of being fined.

Since you are fined a total of 31 days you'll also be getting zero next month.

Hi,


I received no letter for February, March - 0 April -0 May 18 days. I thought I was fined for february.
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Re: Unemployment Payment Explanation

For translations of two monthly ALK statements (Abrechnung), see posts 32 and 29 at this link:

https://www.englishforum.ch/employme...nslated-2.html

Please note that some monthly ALK statements will have additional lines not on the translations.
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I received no letter for February, March - 0 April -0 May 18 days. I thought I was fined for february.
I do not know all your details, but februari alone never can amount for 31 fined working days, also I offc have no clue what those 18 days in May are.
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I do not know all your details, but februari alone never can amount for 31 fined working days, also I offc have no clue what those 18 days in May are.

like u told 31 days fine..



15 days to kick in march

22 -15 = 7


april 21 days fine ( april has 21 working days)


May 21 days ( 31-7-21 =3) so 18 days of payment.


The only wonder is what happened to febraury ?
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Re: Unemployment Payment Explanation

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22 working days in the month.

15 waiting days till your unemployment money kicks in.
7 days of being fined.

Since you are fined a total of 31 days you'll also be getting zero next month.
Where do you get 31 days of fines from?
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Where do you get 31 days of fines from?
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Re: Unemployment Payment Explanation

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The only wonder is what happened to febraury ?

As it mentions the "Rahmenfrist" only starts from March, so indeed it is not considered. If you believe that is wrong you should talk to the insurance.

When did your employment end and when did you go to RAV?
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As it mentions the "Rahmenfrist" only starts from March, so indeed it is not considered. If you believe that is wrong you should talk to the insurance.

When did your employment end and when did you go to RAV?

My employment ended on 31 Jan 2020. I got a letter saying ( https://www.englishforum.ch/employme...ml#post3192654) from 01.02.2020 I will be fined 31 days.


So I thought feb 2020 - 29 days and 2 days in march so 31 days fined. It is mentioned that my unemployment benefits run from 02.03.20 - 01.03.22, I thought those were 31 days but all the fine days add up to 31 so was wondering what happened to february. May be the waiting days is 45 I guess.


I registered on Jan 13 somewhere. It was in RAV Pilatus. I moved in March to luzern and they changed the RAV to RAV Luzern. So may be that is why they have it from March.



The RAV guy is on leave and my first appointment is on 29.07.2020.


I wrote to the ALK guys but I haven't heard anything yet.
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Re: Unemployment Payment Explanation

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My employment ended on 31 Jan 2020. I got a letter saying ( https://www.englishforum.ch/employme...ml#post3192654) from 01.02.2020 I will be fined 31 days.


So I thought feb 2020 - 29 days and 2 days in march so 31 days fined. It is mentioned that my unemployment benefits run from 02.03.20 - 01.03.22, I thought those were 31 days but all the fine days add up to 31 so was wondering what happened to february. May be the waiting days is 45 I guess.


I registered on Jan 13 somewhere. It was in RAV Pilatus. I moved in March to luzern and they changed the RAV to RAV Luzern. So may be that is why they have it from March.



The RAV guy is on leave and my first appointment is on 29.07.2020.


I wrote to the ALK guys but I haven't heard anything yet.
Fines are work days, so 5 days a week not 7.
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Re: Unemployment Payment Explanation

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My employment ended on 31 Jan 2020. I got a letter saying ( https://www.englishforum.ch/employme...ml#post3192654) from 01.02.2020 I will be fined 31 days.


So I thought feb 2020 - 29 days and 2 days in march so 31 days fined. It is mentioned that my unemployment benefits run from 02.03.20 - 01.03.22, I thought those were 31 days but all the fine days add up to 31 so was wondering what happened to february. May be the waiting days is 45 I guess.


I registered on Jan 13 somewhere. It was in RAV Pilatus. I moved in March to luzern and they changed the RAV to RAV Luzern. So may be that is why they have it from March.



The RAV guy is on leave and my first appointment is on 29.07.2020.


I wrote to the ALK guys but I haven't heard anything yet.

Sounds like a mistake then. In that case it should have started from February and from that point you got the Wartetage and Einstelltage.
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Re: Unemployment insurance fined days

thank you guys for the responses. The ALK guys responded and it seems that they have postponed my start date for eligibility from March since I was not in Switzerland the whole month of February.
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Re: Unemployment insurance fined days

Keep in mind that when on RAV you would need to accrue your holidays which means if you decide to take a 2-week holiday in July, the will deduct it from your pay.
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Re: Unemployment Payment Explanation

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I do not know all your details, but februari alone never can amount for 31 fined working days, also I offc have no clue what those 18 days in May are.
Welcome to Switzerland, these are their ways. Like the system?
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Welcome to Switzerland, these are their ways. Like the system?
How does it help OP that you are disgruntled?
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