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Old 24.08.2020, 14:51
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I decided against advancing them to next steps as they never bothered to write a quick note of acknowledgement after the initial interview
They probably had a lucky escape
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Old 24.08.2020, 15:11
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It appears that you want to hire people that have learned how to manage the interview process well. That can be a mistake.
This is exactly the point, the "interview process" is such an outdated concept. I cringe when holding an interview and the HR representative starts up with the formulated list "where do you see yourself in 5 years" type questions.

Pretty much the only thing I'm interested in is whether or not the candidate will fit into the team. 9 times out of 10 one can tell from a CV whether or not someone is able to perform the job, and even if a skill or experience is missing, it's never a deal breaker in my eyes as it can always be learned.

And as for rejecting someone because they didn't send me a thank you note
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Old 24.08.2020, 15:12
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Not to defend the OP in any way, but it is common to send a thank-you note after job interviews in the US.
In CH I never heard of this, not even in the discussions on "how to apply for jobs" I had with friends and teachers.

However I have been told that getting in touch one or two weeks later can be appreciated - just to ask how is the process going and remind that you had a serious interest in the position.
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Re: Cultural or unprofessional?

A very good lesson in culture. Thanks for all the thoughtful comments and for confirming my original suspicion. And yes, it is a very American thing to follow up with a note of acknowledgement. Onward. OP
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Old 24.08.2020, 16:30
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OMG. No wonder why people in CH won’t stand a chance for another interview, if they don’t send a thank you note.
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Old 24.08.2020, 16:31
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it is a very American thing to follow up with a note of acknowledgement.
When did that start?

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Old 24.08.2020, 16:35
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I have been interviewing for various management positions for our organization (The Hepatitis Fund). I've come across a few promising prospects after initial interview by Zoom. I decided against advancing them to next steps as they never bothered to write a quick note of acknowledgement after the initial interview, which I consider basic professional courtesy. Am I being demanding or is this a cultural thing? I know some of the applicants had applied b/c they had to in order to show the Employment Office that they are searching. Or is this a Swiss way of being reserved and not wanting to appear too eager? Nevertheless, I found such behaviour unacceptable.
I guess this rule only applies if you look for ideal baby candidates in the Kindergarten.

So the mature professionals are judged by their ass-kissing abilities instead?
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Old 24.08.2020, 20:12
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Thank you for informing the public where not to apply and dodge that bullet.
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On a second thought, there's a situation where thank you notes apply. I remember living under the umbrella of my parents and working for the people they know. In that case a thank you note makes sense since my dad basically got me the job and the least I could do is say thank you, friend of my father. Well...this has a name: nepotism.
Were you unsuitable for the job? Otherwise it's called networking, or "Vitamin B".
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Old 24.08.2020, 20:19
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Not to defend the OP in any way, but it is common to send a thank-you note after job interviews in the US. Although I noticed he or she writes in British English, I do not know if it is done in the UK...

Perhaps OP should have inquired upon common practices in their new country before they declined good candidates, but then again...most people applying for jobs are only doing so to "show the employment office" right? Ughhhh
He's in Geneva now. See FCBarca's thread on anglophones' arrogance and entitlement.
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Old 24.08.2020, 20:21
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I have been interviewing for various management positions for our organization (The Hepatitis Fund). I've come across a few promising prospects after initial interview by Zoom. I decided against advancing them to next steps as they never bothered to write a quick note of acknowledgement after the initial interview, which I consider basic professional courtesy. Am I being demanding or is this a cultural thing? I know some of the applicants had applied b/c they had to in order to show the Employment Office that they are searching. Or is this a Swiss way of being reserved and not wanting to appear too eager? Nevertheless, I found such behaviour unacceptable.
To be brutally honest your behaviour is unacceptable! You are putting your own petty nonsense before the best interests of your company. And anyone that got rejected dodged a bullet.

I hope you dropped them a line thanking them for taking the time to meet with you. You did, right?
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Old 24.08.2020, 20:42
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He's in Geneva now. See FCBarca's thread on anglophones' arrogance and entitlement.
I figured that it was a SHE.

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I figured that it was a SHE.

Tom
Please Tom, next time someone calls you out for being a sexist arse, and you ask “how or why?”, I will redirect you to this post.

To answer your question on when it started, I’ve been sending thank-you notes after interviews in the US since the 90’s. (And it was my boomer mother who recommended to.)

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A very good lesson in culture. Thanks for all the thoughtful comments and for confirming my original suspicion. And yes, it is a very American thing to follow up with a note of acknowledgement. Onward. OP
Have to give you credit for asking and learning, plus taking the criticism well.

Perhaps you can give those who you have already turned down another chance? Itís tough out there...
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Old 24.08.2020, 21:03
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To answer your question on when it started, Iíve been sending thank-you notes after interviews in the US since the 90ís.
So, 10 years after I got out of that hell.

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Re: Cultural or unprofessional?

In the UK, I was told that if you send a thank you note after an interview, phrased with asking an intelligent post interview question or adding some useful information you forgot to mention, you were way ahead of 9 out of 10 other interviewees and it makes you stand out.


I did this, and when their first choice (cheaper, friend of the boss) candidate gave backword, guess who got offered the job?


And that was almost 30 years ago...





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Please Tom, next time someone calls you out for being a sexist arse, and you ask “how or why?”, I will redirect you to this post.

To answer your question on when it started, I’ve been sending thank-you notes after interviews in the US since the 90’s. (And it was my boomer mother who recommended to.)
So it's sexist to assume that OP's female but it's not sexist to assume OP's male.

That notion itself is sexist. And it reflects back on yourself.
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This is EF at its worst. The OP was asking for advice and ready to reassess her expectations in an interview process. Instead of informing the OP what the norm is in Switzerland, many of you acted as bullies and were downright condescending and mean.

You can do better.

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Olygirl, please read OP's post. OP was condescending and dismissive of candidates who had done their best to find employment. (Only applied because the "employment office forced them to" & "behaviour was unacceptable" for not providing flattery to him or her afterwords etc.) He or she made this harsh final judgement on the candidate before finding out they were in the wrong. Perhaps you haven't had to look for work in awhile? It makes even the best people bitter towards these types. I agree that EF has far too much bullying, but OP deserved a bit of a rough time.

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So it's sexist to assume that OP's female but it's not sexist to assume OP's male.

That notion itself is sexist. And it reflects back on yourself.
Massive rolling of the eyes...I didn't even think about what sex the OP was.
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Old 25.08.2020, 08:22
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Olygirl, please read OP's post. OP was condescending and dismissive of candidates who had done their best to find employment. (Only applied because the "employment office forced them to" & "behaviour was unacceptable" for not providing flattery to him or her afterwords etc.) He or she made this harsh final judgement on the candidate before finding out they were in the wrong. Perhaps you haven't had to look for work in awhile? It makes even the best people bitter towards these types. I agree that EF has far too much bullying, but OP deserved a bit of a rough time.



Massive rolling of the eyes...I didn't even think about what sex the OP was.
I did but I also read that she was willing to change! I realize her posts opened a Pandoraís box of emotions but the bullying has got to stop.
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It depends. The usual approach would be to contact HR if you've queries of course.

As a sometime hiring manager, I received maybe two notes of thank. I appreciated it and it didn't seem wrong at all.

One time I would send a thank-you note is if the agency starts playing silly beggars. Like they want you to lower your rate (contracting), so they can take a bigger cut, and when you can't agree, tell the client you've withdrawn...
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