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bevjswiss 27.08.2020 15:18

Switching to alternate career from IT
 
I was working in IT development/testing field for 12 years. But recently lost my job due to COVID situation. With it, I also lost interest in IT jobs.

I am looking for starting alternate career of my interest. I find myself interested in areas related to tailoring, textile art & craft, jewellery making, fashion, minitaure gardening. I will like to take training into those areas and post it I will take up job or do a small business. I am okay for blue collar work also and not much demaning on the income.

Can you suggest me some professions and their training in Switzerland? Any details such as price, the duration will be even better.

slammer 27.08.2020 16:15

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Ufff! I can only say that google is your friend.

roegner 27.08.2020 16:18

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Originally Posted by bevjswiss (Post 3211522)

I am looking for starting alternate career of my interest. I find myself interested in areas related to tailoring, textile art & craft, jewellery making, fashion, minitaure gardening.

What is minitaure gardening?

NotAllThere 27.08.2020 18:39

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Originally Posted by roegner (Post 3211556)
What is minitaure gardening?

Some kind of hedge maze?

CodPeace 27.08.2020 19:09

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Originally Posted by roegner (Post 3211556)
What is minitaure gardening?

I'd have said a euphemism.

Mikers 27.08.2020 19:21

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Originally Posted by CodPeace (Post 3211640)
I'd have said a euphemism.

I think it's similar in nature to uphill gardening, which would be a significant change in career from IT.

Ganjaman 28.08.2020 09:15

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Originally Posted by bevjswiss (Post 3211522)
I was working in IT development/testing field for 12 years. But recently lost my job due to COVID situation. With it, I also lost interest in IT jobs.
.

Maybe look for a different industry, which is not affected by Covid, but still in IT ?

I`m in a similar situation, working in IT - tourism industry - most affected by Covid . I still have the job, but looking at the covid situation, I`m not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel... :msnshock:

So maybe in telecom or even better, pharma/healthcare . No matter what will happen in the future, people will get sick.. so is not like there are no "customers" for this :)

KiwiSteve 28.08.2020 10:39

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I think you are putting the cart before the horse;
try doing something else (in your free time if you are still working in IT) e.g.
private tuition, dog walking, cat sitting, hamster sitting, selling home made jewelry, selling bonsai, nannying, helping old people etc, etc - then, if you find a new qualification would be useful you can go for it.

Chuff 28.08.2020 10:40

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Originally Posted by bevjswiss (Post 3211522)
I was working in IT development/testing field for 12 years. But recently lost my job due to COVID situation. With it, I also lost interest in IT jobs.

I am looking for starting alternate career of my interest. I find myself interested in areas related to tailoring, textile art & craft, jewellery making, fashion, minitaure gardening. I will like to take training into those areas and post it I will take up job or do a small business. I am okay for blue collar work also and not much demaning on the income.

Can you suggest me some professions and their training in Switzerland? Any details such as price, the duration will be even better.

So lets get this straight... you want us to tell you what you are interested in and find you trainings for it too, despite not knowing anything about you like what experience you have? Jesus, not only are you clearly lazy as hell but with that lack of initiative I fear for your chances in changing professions.

TonyClifton 28.08.2020 10:44

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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3211790)
So lets get this straight... you want us to tell you what you are interested in and find you trainings for it too, despite not knowing anything about you like what experience you have? Jesus, not only are you clearly lazy as hell but with that lack of initiative I fear for your chances in changing professions.

Such a pleasant chap, aren't you? :rolleyes:

Chuff 28.08.2020 10:52

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Originally Posted by TonyClifton (Post 3211792)
Such a pleasant chap, aren't you? :rolleyes:

Are you, one of the single most morally and ethically dubious people on this forum, a man with fringe far-right wing ideals who posts abhorrent things and lies and misinforms in political threads on a regular basis, trying to take the moral high ground because I called someone lazy for not putting effort into their own career change? Comedy gold. :rofl:

Susie-Q 28.08.2020 13:02

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First of all, I am very sorry that you have lost your job during this tough time. Secondly, I'm sorry that there are typical bullies who lurk on this forum waiting to take a chance at biting someone while they are down. It is probably far too hard for them to be proper men in real life. Please don't take it personally, it is only a reflection of who they are.

To answer your question, starting a new career in Switzerland isn't easy. People are professionally trained in these kind of jobs since they are around 14-15 years old. I can sympathise with where you are, as I often feel the way you do. I would love to escape from my corporate job to work as a gardener at the local botanical garden or a cheese farmer...but unfortunately it isn't realistic unless I want to sacrifice several unpaid years of my life to be trained in a job that will barely provide enough to survive.

The piece of advice I can give you is to try your best at finding a fulfilling life outside of work. Some of the things you mentioned can be hobbies that you enjoy externally of a job you maybe feel less than passionate about. A good job will allow you to afford these activities. :) Feel free to PM me if you need any help or advice on local resources.

Best of luck and I hope you find something good soon.

Wishing you all the best!

BasP72 28.08.2020 14:25

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I can recommend you to register at the RAV for unemployment benefits etc. The RAV will also help you to find a new job, and if necessary help you with schooling to improve your chances of a new job. Why not mention there that you want to improve your chances and learn the arts and crafts you mentioned ? Maybe then the RAV will send you on a course (which they will pay for).

Mullhollander 28.08.2020 16:02

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Originally Posted by BasP72 (Post 3211860)
I can recommend you to register at the RAV for unemployment benefits etc. The RAV will also help you to find a new job, and if necessary help you with schooling to improve your chances of a new job. Why not mention there that you want to improve your chances and learn the arts and crafts you mentioned ? Maybe then the RAV will send you on a course (which they will pay for).


RAV/ ALK will, in some cases, support RAV registered job-seekers for retraining, especially if the job-seeker's skills are outdated. More information is available at this link (English):

https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/en/...hmenliste.html

DerDieDas 28.08.2020 17:57

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Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3211790)
So lets get this straight... you want us to tell you what you are interested in and find you trainings for it too, despite not knowing anything about you like what experience you have? Jesus, not only are you clearly lazy as hell but with that lack of initiative I fear for your chances in changing professions.

I often wonder why some members of this forum take the time to post replies accusing people of not doing their homework or being lazy. Why not just ignore the question? There are enough people who are willing to take the time to reply.

DerDieDas 28.08.2020 18:00

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Originally Posted by Mullhollander (Post 3211893)
RAV/ ALK will, in some cases, support RAV registered job-seekers for retraining, especially if the job-seeker's skills are outdated. More information is available at this link (English):

https://www.arbeit.swiss/secoalv/en/...hmenliste.html

I have the feeling the OP has worked in CH only a few months (since March actually) so I doubt RAV would do much to help but your advice is none the less valuable and it doesn't hurt to go and ask for advice.

st2lemans 28.08.2020 18:04

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Get an apprenticeship.

Tom

manny calavera 28.08.2020 18:54

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Change is great, but I think a complete change of career should be motivated by passion, not by boredom.

I got into IT because it was the reasonable thing to do. I have always been the nerdy basement kid and I was on my own financially, so getting a degree in IT which allowed me to work part time and make my hobby somewhat lucrative seemed like a really good idea.

One degree later I found myself staring at a screen all day, solving problems caused by people who were promoted out of the way for their incompetence.
I have never had any money in my life and now, all of the sudden, I didn't know what to do with it. I couldn't buy happiness.

My childhood dream caught up with me and shortly before I turned 30 I quit everything and went to med school to, after all, follow my passion. I am now four days away from taking the board exam. I am worn out, tired, done, and I really want to slap Mr. Berset. Or rather headbutt him and cause a nice Le Fort III central midface fracture to make his useless brain leak.

The actual job of a physician is nothing like what I imagined. The hourly wage is way less than what I made in IT. There are senior doctors who tell you if you're one of those people who insist on logging overtime, you are not a good fit for the team. The job is basically staring at a screen all day, writing reports, filling out paperwork, and, apparently, faxing things. FAXING!?!?

I couldn't be happier. The change of career was the greatest decision ever. I am broke again, but I feel liberated. I am following my passion and it is awesome through and through. I am nothing but happily looking forward to my future.

Getting through med school sucks in all the ways you can imagine, but I was finally exactly where I always wanted to be. Doing what you want is addictive. I started getting fit like I always wanted, I started having the friends I always wanted and I spent the little money I had left on an old rattly car that I always wanted ( :thumbup: to @Ace1. Anyone else?) and used it to pick up the dream guy I've always wanted. And I am certain, I will find my niche in medicine that lets me do what I have always wanted.

But... nothing of all that would have happened if I changed career out of boredom. I would just be in a different field dealing with the same bs. Gardening sounds super fun but will you enjoy doing a garden for a client that is just so *!#%ing wrong about everything? Making jewelry sounds awesome, but how many ring size changes can you take before you get bored? (I know nothing about gardening or jewelry making, this is just what I would expect to be routine in these fields)

Or can you maybe change to something more interesting within your field? While still in IT I was already looking into requirement engineering and things like Kaizen etc. and would have started doing workshops etc. to get me out of the office and interacting with people.

What do you really want?
What is your passion?

markalex 29.08.2020 10:25

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Originally Posted by BasP72 (Post 3211860)
I can recommend you to register at the RAV for unemployment benefits etc. The RAV will also help you to find a new job, and if necessary help you with schooling to improve your chances of a new job. Why not mention there that you want to improve your chances and learn the arts and crafts you mentioned ? Maybe then the RAV will send you on a course (which they will pay for).

I don't want to be the doomsayer here but RAV are not going to help you change careers. For the most part they have their hands tied behind their backs on training, and at best will offer you language training, the same thing they've been offering for the past 25 years or more. They won't help you find a job either, they simply there to try and make sure you don't screw the system and you're that making at least a token effort to find a job. Will they mind if you were previously in IT and spend more of your time applying for jobs in garden centres, I don't know... maybe it depends on the councillor you're talking too. I don't think they'll complain if you do both.

markalex 29.08.2020 10:29

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Originally Posted by BasP72 (Post 3211860)
I can recommend you to register at the RAV for unemployment benefits etc. The RAV will also help you to find a new job, and if necessary help you with schooling to improve your chances of a new job. Why not mention there that you want to improve your chances and learn the arts and crafts you mentioned ? Maybe then the RAV will send you on a course (which they will pay for).

I signed in and out of RAV in Switzerland three or four times in my career here. they don't help you, really they do next to nothing beyond tick boxes at monthly meetings.


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